Posted on 01/06/2015 12:09:34 PM PST by leapfrog0202
In the biggest defection from an incumbent speaker in at least 100 years, 25 House Republicans voted for someone other than John Boehner to serve as speaker in the 114th Congress.
Here's the full list, in order: 1.Rep. Justin Amash (Mich.) -- Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) 2.Rep. Brian Babin (Tex.) -- “present” 3.Rep. Rod Blum (Iowa) -- Rep. Dan Webster (R-Fla.) 4.Rep. Dave Brat (Va.) -- Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.) ...click link for more
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In all honesty the whole thing was a hare brained scheme from the get go. A performance worthy of the Keystone Kops or better yet the Three Stooges IMHO.
I get that Boehner is very unpopular especially among Movement Conservatives, of which I am one. But I also understand politics and history. It is no easy feat to unseat a sitting Speaker of the House. It has rarely happened in our history. Say whatever you like about Boehner, but he is an entrenched incumbent who has been around a long time and knows where most of the bodies are buried on Capital Hill. I’m sure dozens of congressmen owe him favors.
Fact is there was no credible alternative to Boehner. I love Louie Goehmert, but he threw his hat in at the last minute and never stood a chance.
While it is not impossible to remove a sitting House Speaker, such an effort would require considerable organization, resources, focus, strategy, and unity behind a single credible opposition candidate. All of these elements were missing from the effort to unseat Boehner, therefore the effort had no real chance.
Do you read posting to you or just write?
I read everything you write to me. Every word of it.
God bless my friend.
Then do you think the shot across the bow might show some results? I do.
Stay warm my FRiend.
Oppose the two main parties and build a third.
I don’t like the prospect, but there is no hope whatsoever that the Republican Party leadership will ever come to it’s senses.
It’s sad, but it has to die so a viable new party can take it’s place. As for the leadership of the new party, it can not accept one single GOPe operative into it’s leadership ranks. Not even an advisory role should be allowed them.
If we allow the Republicans to control this new party, it will have been for nothing.
Onward...
I don’t know how accurate this is. Is it worth discussing? If it is so, since this is NOT November any longer, we shouldn’t we be expecting (McClintock’s words) “At any meeting, a member may put a no-confidence motion to the conference and, if adopted, set the stage for a House vote to vacate the office and elect a successor” from doing this soon?
Who’ll be the whip Tom?
Statement by Congressman Tom McClintock On the Election of the House Speaker
January 6, 2015 10:42 AM
Statement by Congressman Tom McClintock
On the Election of the House Speaker
January 6, 2014
I am disappointed in Mr. Boehner’s leadership of the House and have expressed my concerns on many occasions. But shifting this decision from the House Republican Conference to the House Floor opens a Pandora’s Box.
The election of the House Speaker is a decision that is made by the House majority caucus. That decision is then enacted through a formal vote on the House floor by the unanimous action of that majority.
The Republican majority voted at its November meeting to re-elect John Boehner as Speaker after no member stepped forward to challenge him. Some have suggested now shifting that decision from the House Republican Conference to the House floor, where 29 Republicans can combine with Democrats to thwart it.
Conservatives should beware. On its worst day, the collective judgment of the Republican majority is much more conservative than that of the overall House membership. Shattering Republican unity in the election of Speaker is not likely to end with a more conservative alternative, but rather with a coalition of the most liberal House Republicans and House Democrats.
This happened in the California Assembly in 1994. Dissident Republicans broke with the Republican majority on the vote for Speaker, enlisting the votes of minority Democrats in exchange for a wholesale transfer of power. Though voters had elected a Republican majority, this coalition effectively gave Democrats control of the Assembly.
The proper place to contest a Republican speaker is in the House Republican Conference. At any meeting, a member may put a no-confidence motion to the conference and, if adopted, set the stage for a House vote to vacate the office and elect a successor. However, this requires every member of the Conference to respect the collective decision – a long-enduring precedent that would be destroyed by the proposed strategy. I cannot support it.
Oh, I was thinking a civil war/revolution.
That will likely happen when the economic collapse that Obama is striving for takes place. Cloward-Pivan and all. His policies can lead to nothing else.
But we can try your plan in the mean time ;) I would love to see a grass roots party take hold. IF they do and they can turn the country around, it might save things. But $17.5T in debt....I think that’s just to big to deal with.
I received this response from McClintock in my email today, and posted it from his website yesterday.
It’s true, every word.
He sold us out!
A split could have given Pelosi a chance...scary as he$$.
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Possible but I don’t think it was very likely. Some of those split votes would have
had to cross over and vote for Pelosi in order for her to gain the 50% +1 needed. As long
as the GOP votes didn’t cross over they could have voted for 216 different poeple and
Pelosi wouldn’t have won.
She got 162 or 165 votes, and if there was chaos and a revote that split the Republican vote three ways and five to ten wild cards like happened, and she still got her same votes, well...never say never.
and she still got her same votes, well...never say never.
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Yep strange things happen but as long as the other 231 votes remained in play and didn’t
go to Pelosi she would never win with her 164 votes.
Take care
Absolutely.
We need to refer back to the early history of our country's path to independence. It didn't start with the Revolutionary War. That's where it ended - after the colonies had tried every solution available to them within the civil systems established at the time.
The Americans spent decades trying to appeal to Parliament and King George III to grant them the same rights as other British citizens, to no avail. It wasn't until they realized that they would never be treated as anything other than serfs, that they finally picked up their guns.
The current government has become more tyrannical than King George III ever dreamed of being, and the resultant hew and cry from the people is growing in the same way it did here centuries ago. I personally don't see our government learning a damn thing from our history. They're going to keep doubling down on tyranny until the people finally make them stop.
At some point in the not-too-distant future, the majority of voters are going to come to the same conclusion that you and I already have. When they fail to show up for yet another fruitless exercise in voting, the ruling class may finally understand that things are about to undergo a tectonic shift.
I think it’s hard to deal with also, but there are ways to address it. Whether it’s true or not, I’ve heard the national debt was very large after WWII. We paid that down. We can pay this down. During Clinton’s second term, we actually paid down some debt. We can do it if we put our minds to it.
Welfare must end as we know it. I mean for real. No smoke and mirrors, just end it. Reduce it over a period of time to zero. Whether 2 or 4 years, or somewhere in between, simply eliminate most of it.
There’s half a trillion year right there. In ten years we have a 12.5 trillion dollar debt.
Bring back manufacturing, full employment, and full tax dollar receipts. I’ll guarantee you, the welfare class alone would increase tax receipts. Employing more middle income people would too.
We’re happily handing off jobs to other nations when we need them here. This S needs to stop right here.
We could be healthy in no time with the right guy at the helm.
“We could be healthy in no time with the right guy at the helm.”
I just don’t have much hope that guy will ever be elected. We couldn’t even get rid of cry baby.
After WWII our economy was hot. Obama is doing all he can to make sure that doesn’t happen.
Sorry to be a wet blanket. Maybe after a good nights sleep, i’ll be optimistic and hopeful again!
I know where you’re coming from. Can’t argue with your comments.
Which would mean something if the Boehner protesters had proposed a coalition with Miz Nancy -- no such thing happened or was proposed. At best he misunderstands, at worst he is being disingenuous.
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