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If We Only Spent All the Money, Then Everyone Would Be Prosperous!
Reason Magazine ^ | January 2, 2015 | Matt Welch, editor-in-chief

Posted on 01/02/2015 3:40:24 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

On the front of today's New York Times business section is a remarkable—or should I say remarkably unremarkable—news article whose entire premise, unchallenged in the course of 1,341 words and input from 10 sources, is that more government spending is a very good thing because it leads to more government jobs and therefore helps the economy. Hooray!

If you think I am being unfair in this characterization, consider the headline: "Government Spending, Edging Up, Is a Stimulus." Or the headline on the jump page inside: "Rebound in Government Spending Starts to Aid Economy After Years of Cuts." Or the headline on the associated chart: "A Small But Important Lift." Or the blurb: "The public sector is once again adding to prosperity." Before consuming some counter-factual questions, enjoy the celebratory sounds of friction-free assumptions and loosening belts:

NAPLES, Fla. — For a long stretch, government spending cutbacks at all levels were a substantial drag on economic growth. Now, finally, relief is in sight. For the first time since 2011, local, state and federal governments are providing a small but significant increase to prosperity. […]

And so on a recent windswept afternoon, John Lynch, armed with a police radio and a giant net, stood along a fishing pier in Naples, on guard for pelicans that might become entangled in fishing lines.

"That's my job, to try and get them to safety," said Mr. Lynch, a retired banker with a snowy beard whose uniform was a fisherman's cap and shorts. Mr. Lynch is one of the latest additions to the city's payroll. His is the kind of government job this Gulf Coast town never would have even contemplated during the recession. […]

"This new revenue, the increase in the economy, the increase in G.D.P. —everything is looking good," [said Ron Haskins, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution]. "It's releasing pressure to be fiscally restrained." […]

The Naples Pier outreach assistant job was a minor item in the $32.9 million budget, but an important symbol that times were flush again. […]

The Naples Fire­ Rescue Department just bought two new emergency vehicles worth $196,000 each. One of the boxy red trucks arrived last month, just in time to be steered gingerly down the route of the city's annual Christmas parade, where palm trees were adorned in white holiday lights and children darted for candy tossed from holiday­ themed floats.

It is an event so precious to locals that the city kept it going during the downturn, said John F. Sorey III, mayor of Naples.

"We've got to preserve the wow factor," he said, "or all our tourists could go somewhere else."

Credit where it's due: As government-spending euphemisms go, preserving the wow factor is surely in the Top 20...

I have only four questions for the NYT and those who agree with its premise that the more government spends, the more prosperous we are:

1) Why were states not measurably more prosperous after increasing government spending by more than 80 percent in real terms between 2003 and 2007?

2) Between the time of Bill Clinton's last submitted budget of $1.8 trillion, and Barack Obama's first submitted budget of $3.6 trillion, did the average American become more or less prosperous?

3) The United States after World War II, Canada in the 1990s, and Australia in the 1980s all became significantly more prosperous—despite ample warnings to the contrary—after cutting, not increasing, government spending. Wha' happen?

4) Is there a ceiling on what percentage of GDP the government should account for, and if so why should there be one, and where should it be?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debt; deficit; economy; obama
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These idiots never realize that the money is imaginary.


21 posted on 01/02/2015 5:08:15 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: 2banana
Another question they can't answer is:

"Did all the multi millionaire athletes and entertainers that went broke not make enough money?"

22 posted on 01/02/2015 5:41:07 PM PST by Baynative (Did you ever notice that atheists don't dare sue Muslims?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Rev. William John Henry Boetcker.

Was probably attributed to Lincoln by mistake.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/lincoln/prosperity.asp


23 posted on 01/02/2015 5:42:51 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: eyeamok

24 posted on 01/02/2015 5:50:50 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t say it’s impossible for the gubmint to spend productively, for though I’m terrible at golf I once sunk a put from about twenty feet away despite myself. It’s just that I’m about as likely to join the PGA as is gubmint spending to be regularly stimulating.


25 posted on 01/02/2015 6:03:24 PM PST by tubalcane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Exactly the kind of idiocy that the libs promote.

Just think, we can ALL be the 1 percent!!!


26 posted on 01/02/2015 6:29:02 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: All

Government spending on a whole adds nothing to the GDP of a country... while some spending may add to GDP, the bulk of spending retards economic growth because the outlays are strictly for political purposes that benefit only a few. Any government spending is money that would normally be spent by present tax payers or future tax payers (stealing from the future). It’s the same with government employees...they do not really pay taxes...every government employee is a drain on the treasury, neither helping to pay the country’s fiscal bills or adding to the economy.


27 posted on 01/02/2015 6:36:28 PM PST by DHerion
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To: DHerion
It’s the same with government employees...they do not really pay taxes...every government employee is a drain on the treasury, neither helping to pay the country’s fiscal bills or adding to the economy.

Try telling that to a public union goon. They think they actually produce something and pay taxes. Then tell them how the taxpayer actually pays for their house - then they smirk.

28 posted on 01/02/2015 6:44:07 PM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Please direct your attention to the following graph. It is plain, is it not, that starting in 2014 government expenditures (blue) have gone up, and with that increase an increase in employment is also seen (red). Here is your proof, and this is all the proof you need. In particular, please do not consider how government expenditure has dropped from 2009 to mid-2011, and please most certainly do not look at what happened to employment during that awful, terrible, horrible, very bad, no good period. Thank you for your inattention.


29 posted on 01/02/2015 8:18:25 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: __rvx86

50% is small compared to $100. where it is $50.

However 50% of $18 TRILLION is $9 TRILLION; numbers rounded off. China may be the largest of the foreign holders, however ‘China’ is a representative of communism, and very nitpicky about money....even at times telling us what to do with it. So my ‘analogy’ is not so far off....


30 posted on 01/02/2015 9:56:37 PM PST by Kackikat ('If it talks like a traitor, acts like a traitor, then by God it's a traitor.')
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To: __rvx86

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikepatton/2014/10/28/who-owns-the-most-u-s-debt/


31 posted on 01/02/2015 9:57:23 PM PST by Kackikat ('If it talks like a traitor, acts like a traitor, then by God it's a traitor.')
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To: Kackikat
People, it's far, far worse than we thought. We are royally boned.
32 posted on 01/02/2015 10:16:36 PM PST by __rvx86 (A non-trivial fear: Government by my peers. Double points if you can figure out when I was born.)
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To: __rvx86

Oh I get it, America is screwed...to put it directly!


33 posted on 01/02/2015 10:30:16 PM PST by Kackikat ('If it talks like a traitor, acts like a traitor, then by God it's a traitor.')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you...I have that somewhere, but wouldn’t want to guess at the moment.


34 posted on 01/02/2015 10:32:26 PM PST by Kackikat ('If it talks like a traitor, acts like a traitor, then by God it's a traitor.')
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To: Fledermaus

Obama’s redistribution


35 posted on 01/03/2015 4:57:05 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Empty head empty suit = arrogant little bastard)
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