Posted on 12/25/2014 7:35:59 PM PST by Nachum
Adding to the long-running saga of IRS dealings with conservatives, former Senate candidate Christine ODonnell says the tax agency punished her mistakenly for the second time in five years by imposing an erroneous levy on her bank accounts. Ms. ODonnell told The Washington Times she only discovered the levy when she couldnt access her checking account as she was preparing to visit relatives over Thanksgiving. The day before I was heading out of town for the Thanksgiving weekend, my bank told me the IRS had frozen my accounts. They didnt give me reason why, just a phone number to call.
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The irs is the most oppressive agency that has ever existed.
Why is the solution to a rotten mess, another rotten mess? DeathCare won’t get abolished, say the Whigs - “We’ll replace it with something better”. So, we abolish the IRS and impose a national sales tax. Huh, you’re still stealing my money.
This country got along just fine without an income tax for 125 years without an income tax (except for the illegal and unconstitutional tax imposed by the Great Invader Lincoln) and we can do just fine without one now.
What? Something else to bullshiite us with?
Maybe she should get Life Lock!
Al $harpton needed some of her money.
Conservative harassment continues without consequences, and until there are consequences (prison), it will continue by the IRS or any other liberal group.
Lois Lerner committed crimes against the Republic and must receive the death penalty and get the needle
Prison is totally inadequate punishment for her crimes
We may feel that way, but I doubt she will get anything....the forces of the WH will protect her because I believe it originated in the Democratic party.
Another good reason to move them home. Make them work out of glass offices on Main Street, where everyone could look in on them and see what they are doing. Today's communications make it possible. Make lobbyists and other arm twisters come to them in 50 States. No DC nightlife, no fancy parties. If they need to hob-nob, let them do it with their employers, us. Make them look us in the eye and try to screw us.
Now I know this will take an amendment, and it will never come out of DC. It will take something like a Convention.
Something odd here. IRS does not just suddenly attach/levy bank accounts. There’s a system of assessments and notices that come weeks apart before they levy. The underlying assessment may be incorrect, but it’s highly improbable that one learns about it for the first time after the levy. My guess is that she did not properly report the property sale (even if there’s no taxable gain, you still need to report the sale because the escrow agent filed a 1099 to report the proceeds) until after the levy and then the IRS wiped out the assessment. And, I doubt that IRS admitted to being “mistaken.” Her account of the situation is possible, but not probable.
The IRS has been successfully weaponized by the left. Time to initiate a national sales RETAIL tax and disband the IRS.
Retail ==> things are only taxed one time... at retail consumption. Hence no business taxes [just like state sale tax now.]
NRST
The flat income tax is keeps all the same stuff. All of it. The big change? A purportedly simpler way to pay.
The nrst, however, is a liberal's nightmare. Under the nrst; no more withholding, eliminates taxes hidden in prices, wages, and ROI. NRST has no FICA "contribution" - no employee "contribution" and no employer "contribution" either. And most feared to liberals is that the income tax IRS is gone. State sales tax agencies can take over.
No, you're wrong - libs love any income tax. Any. And they will die on the hill that protects their income tax.
No, it won't. It wouldn't change a thing to go to a flat tax.
This goes way back. Please do a little research (or at least read ALL the article) before wildly speculating.
...it will further cement the idea that the federal government can be involved in intrastate commerce;
The nrst allows states to take over the collection [and pays them to do it.] So it does not cement the idea.
...they could make the sales tax of varying rates dependent on who the person is or the income they make...
You have the worldview of an income taxer. Retailers won't know who the buyer is or how much he makes b/c none of that matters anymore. Under an nrst, the amount you make is irrelevant - the amount you spend is.
... they could store all the pertinent info in a chip and have it embedded into the right hand.
You already have a chip in your hand. Look closely. wow.
Sales taxes were mentioned; on these threads someone always brings up the idea.
>> ...it will further cement the idea that the federal government can be involved in intrastate commerce;
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> The nrst allows states to take over the collection [and pays them to do it.] So it does not cement the idea.
Ah, it allows the states to but doesn't require them to?
Seems like the feds would do their best to take over the process, or perhaps just clamp down on their vassals the states.
>> ...they could make the sales tax of varying rates dependent on who the person is or the income they make...
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> You have the worldview of an income taxer. Retailers won't know who the buyer is or how much he makes b/c none of that matters anymore. Under an nrst, the amount you make is irrelevant - the amount you spend is.
First, a flat-rate income tax w/ no deductions, exemptions, credits, or exceptions has an excellent property: it is proportional. Period.
Second, You conveniently left out the method by which they could combine the progressive income tax ideas with sales tax — and don't tell me it's not an option, we've seen that these yahoos will pass multi-thousand page bills w/o reading them (and, incidentally, without writing them). Imagine the unions pushing such a law and embedding in it that they get one thousandth of a percent of the taxes from the national sales tax.
>> ... they could store all the pertinent info in a chip and have it embedded into the right hand.
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> You already have a chip in your hand. Look closely. wow.
Really?
I wish I had the disposable income to have some Doritos…
Exactly right.
Invariably, all of them (with the exception of those I could count on one hand) lie and stab us in the back. They spend half of their time amassing money (with attached deals to big donors) to get reelected and the other half maneuvering their way through contorted bill amendment rules and cloture votes (and show votes) designed to disguise themselves so they can go home and lie twice a year.
To my mind, a COS wont fix this. Both they, and the President have shown us all what they think of Constitutional Law.
It might; I think my Senate Reform Amendment would do a lot to address the issue (esp if the Fiscal Responsibility Amendment were adopted as well).
[See Post 25]
What we have now is worse than the run up to the Civil War, IMO. Id much sooner support a convention of states that would enact complete secession.
Hm, you're right; there we had a distinct two classes, but the law was clear and applied uniformly. Here we have unjust 'law' being applied at-whim which creates a de facto number of classes — and the ones in authority believe that's the way it's supposed to be.
IRS NEED TO BE DE FUNDED AND REPLACED WITH A SALES TAX.
The damn government has no right knowing how much you earn or what you do for a living or even where you work!!
Conveniently? How so?
Everyone knows that the combination is possible. It happens in Canada.
What is preventing them from instituting a sales tax on top of our existing income tax right now? Something must be preventing it! Did you conveniently leave that out?
Check that chip ...
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