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To: Principled
> First - nobody is talking about a "national sales tax". But lots of people are talking about a nation RETAIL sales tax. There is a big difference - while I realize that a lot of people don't think about that detail, it's important enough to point out. For example, a national RETAIL sales tax has business paying NO taxes by statute [and everyone knows they just increase prices, lower wages, or reduce ROI to pay taxes.

Sales taxes were mentioned; on these threads someone always brings up the idea.

>> ...it will further cement the idea that the federal government can be involved in intrastate commerce;
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> The nrst allows states to take over the collection [and pays them to do it.] So it does not cement the idea.

Ah, it allows the states to but doesn't require them to?
Seems like the feds would do their best to take over the process, or perhaps just clamp down on their vassals the states.

>> ...they could make the sales tax of varying rates dependent on who the person is or the income they make...
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> You have the worldview of an income taxer. Retailers won't know who the buyer is or how much he makes b/c none of that matters anymore. Under an nrst, the amount you make is irrelevant - the amount you spend is.

First, a flat-rate income tax w/ no deductions, exemptions, credits, or exceptions has an excellent property: it is proportional. Period.
Second, You conveniently left out the method by which they could combine the progressive income tax ideas with sales tax — and don't tell me it's not an option, we've seen that these yahoos will pass multi-thousand page bills w/o reading them (and, incidentally, without writing them). Imagine the unions pushing such a law and embedding in it that they get one thousandth of a percent of the taxes from the national sales tax.

>> ... they could store all the pertinent info in a chip and have it embedded into the right hand.
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> You already have a chip in your hand. Look closely. wow.

Really?
I wish I had the disposable income to have some Doritos…

57 posted on 12/26/2014 8:24:22 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
You conveniently left out the method by which they could combine the progressive income tax ideas with sales tax ...

Conveniently? How so?

Everyone knows that the combination is possible. It happens in Canada.

What is preventing them from instituting a sales tax on top of our existing income tax right now? Something must be preventing it! Did you conveniently leave that out?

Check that chip ...

60 posted on 12/26/2014 8:43:26 AM PST by Principled (Government Slowdown using the budget process!)
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