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U.S. Army wants a new gun
CNN ^ | Dec. 4, 2014 | Aaron Smith

Posted on 12/04/2014 8:47:56 AM PST by PROCON

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To: PROCON

Go back to the .45 ACP. Proven manstopper, even with FMJ 230 gr. If war fighters have to rely on a pistol, make sure it kills the enemy. If not the .45, next bet would be the FN Five Seven...but then that is a whole new caliber.


2 posted on 12/04/2014 8:49:51 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: DCBryan1

40 S&W makes more sense.


3 posted on 12/04/2014 8:51:22 AM PST by mylife
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I would bet they want a caliber with the stopping power of the .45 and additional magazine capacity of the 9mm.

If all of this sounds familiar it is; the same argument was used when the FBI adopted the .40 S & W.

they will probably go with it too; most of the common subguns are chambered for the round as well.

It would solve some supply chain problems as well.


4 posted on 12/04/2014 8:53:03 AM PST by txnativegop (I'm out of ideas about tag lines.)
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To: DCBryan1
Go back to the .45 ACP

But...but the recoil might sprain a female warrior's wrist...

5 posted on 12/04/2014 8:53:18 AM PST by PROCON (Always give 100%...unless you're donating blood.)
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To: PROCON
Good enough for the SEALs. Sig 226 Navy


6 posted on 12/04/2014 8:53:54 AM PST by mylife
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To: DCBryan1

45s are too big for women and femi-gays.

that’s why they went down to 9s, but now they are seeing it’s not enough and they’ll probably do what the cops did and move to 40s - basically the stubby 10mm.


7 posted on 12/04/2014 8:53:58 AM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: PROCON

I sure like my Sig Sauer P228R, a variation of the loser in the last competition.


8 posted on 12/04/2014 8:54:09 AM PST by centurion316
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To: PROCON
But guns chosen by the military achieve cult status, used as iconic weapons in James Bond and other action movies, and become highly desirable among civilian gun owners too.

The M-9 was my duty weapon for about 15 years, but I never had a desire to own one. It was very large for the caliber and number of rounds the magazine held. Plus, I've never owned a 9mm, so it would have required another caliber of ammo to stock up on. The only thing I can say in its defense is that I never had a malfunction with it, but I only fired it at the range.

9 posted on 12/04/2014 8:54:16 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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45s are too big for women and femi-gays.

Which is why they should all be REMFs.

10 posted on 12/04/2014 8:55:34 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: PROCON

I’m going out on a limb and will say that the Army will spend $1T to study this matter and then elect to stay with the Beretta M9 for the foreseeable future.


11 posted on 12/04/2014 8:55:53 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Democrats have a lynch mob mentality. They always have.)
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To: PROCON
I was reared with a M1911 .45. I think a high capacity M1911 .45 should be considered. Haven't the Marines and snipers gone back to using the M1911 in combat? Kimber and Para Ordnance have produced some real good high quality M1911 type pistols.
12 posted on 12/04/2014 8:57:55 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: DCBryan1

Is the .45 ACP round NATO standard? I thought one of the reasons for the switch to 9 mm was that was the NATO standard.


13 posted on 12/04/2014 8:59:11 AM PST by C19fan
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To: PROCON
Bah. Nobody on this forum has any strong opinions on firearms.

I draw no conclusions, but simply point out that 9mm is the favorite caliber of the Castro District and the Folsom Street Fair...could be a coincidence...

14 posted on 12/04/2014 8:59:36 AM PST by Billthedrill
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You are correct, 9mm is a Nato cal and that was a major part of the decision.


15 posted on 12/04/2014 9:01:15 AM PST by mylife
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To: Secret Agent Man

Why can’t they invent a pistol that sprays unicorns and rainbows and won’t make me soil my panties when it goes boom. I shudder at the thought.


16 posted on 12/04/2014 9:02:18 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: PROCON
If there is an M9 and a standard 1911 sitting on the table, and a giraffe shows up in my front yard, I'll be grabbing the 1911 on the way to the rifle.

/johnny

17 posted on 12/04/2014 9:02:34 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: mylife

Mine is not the naval edition (doubt I could even get one), but I have had my 226 for twenty years and have had not one problem with it, ever.


18 posted on 12/04/2014 9:02:59 AM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: DCBryan1

If a combatant can’t handle a 45, they can’t handle combat.

The 45ACP is a pussycat round to shoot, it is NOT a wrist breaker.


19 posted on 12/04/2014 9:03:25 AM PST by wrench (Ebola is not a threat to the US. 0bama says so, and he would never lie..........)
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To: PROCON

Whatever they pick they need to pick the best one, not the most politically connected one that performed the worst in trials.


20 posted on 12/04/2014 9:04:08 AM PST by Seruzawa (Gully Foyle is my name, and Terra is my nation)
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