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Does SOTU have to be in the evening? Brits have Queen's Speech during the day (Vanity)
Vanity | 12/03/2014 | me

Posted on 12/03/2014 7:51:02 PM PST by tellw

I'm not sure the country is quite ready for a total cancellation of the State of the Union much as i feel it justified. But how about a compromise and ask that the President come and give it during the daytime? In the UK the Queen's Speech to the Opening of Parliament (which is the closest equivalent to the SOTU) is held during the daytime.

It would definitely annoy the White House to not get their 3 hours of night time spotlight but there's nothing unreasonable about moving this speech to the daytime. It would save money (don't have to pay staff overtime) and stimulate the economy (broadcast networks can run their regular entertainment programs). Thoughts?


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To: FredZarguna

Great!


41 posted on 12/03/2014 11:06:23 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Verginius Rufus
As Alice Roosevelt — quite the narcissist herself — said of her father: “He wants to be the bride at every wedding, the corpse at every funeral, and the baby at every christening.” Such was the man who first bethought himself of violating Washington's precedent. Sadly, his distant cousin and niece's husband succeeded.
42 posted on 12/03/2014 11:37:54 PM PST by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47 -- with leather.)
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To: faithhopecharity

Do you have a special button on your remote that is programed to do that and, if so, where can I get one?


43 posted on 12/04/2014 4:18:15 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: tellw

It can’t be handwritten ‘cause we’d recognize who actually wrote it. Right. Valerie?


44 posted on 12/04/2014 5:56:35 AM PST by Straight8
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To: FredZarguna
I'm not sure what you meant by "violating Washington's precedent." Jefferson abandoned Washington's precedent and Teddy simply followed the practice of all the Presidents after Jefferson.

TR was asked if he could do something about Alice and replied that he could run the country or control Alice, but he couldn't do both of them at the same time.

I believe she is the one who said, "If you can't say anything nice about a person, come here and sit next to me."

45 posted on 12/04/2014 6:35:35 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: ops33
Right now that special button is called "OFF!" But if you prefer, the channel change buttons will do (Anything to shut him up😁!!!)
46 posted on 12/04/2014 7:09:54 AM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..) c)
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To: mylife

It should be exclusively on Pay-Per-View, with the proceeds going towards paying down the national debt!


47 posted on 12/04/2014 7:55:36 AM PST by catman67
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To: tellw

Up until around Woodrow Wilson there was no such thing as a State of the Union address. The Constitution requires the president give a report to Congress once a year. Prior to Wilson it was given in writing and read to Congress by one of their clerks.


48 posted on 12/04/2014 8:01:50 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Verginius Rufus
Jefferson abandoned Washington's Precedent.

When did Jefferson run for a third term?

49 posted on 12/04/2014 9:37:18 AM PST by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47 -- with leather.)
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To: FredZarguna

I thought the issue was giving the State of the Union address in person or sending over a written message. Teddy Roosevelt was elected only once. His first term, filling out McKinley’s term, was 3 and a half years so he said he wouldn’t run again in 1908. Obviously he changed his mind in 1912 with disastrous results (the election of Woodrow Wilson). But Grant earlier had tried to get a third term.


50 posted on 12/04/2014 10:14:29 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Perdogg
There doesn’t even have to be a speech. Jefferson just sent a letter.

Never mind Jefferson - except for Washington in 1790, NO President delivered his report to Congress in person until Woodrow Wilson in 1913, and a written report was substituted as recently as 1981.

Congress CLEARLY does not have to provide THIS venue for Obama's required report to them, and, IMO, they shouldn't.

51 posted on 12/04/2014 10:18:53 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Verginius Rufus
T Rex ran for a third term; Grant did not. Grant neither declared nor disavowed a willingness to serve a third term.

On failing to receive his party's nomination, Grant had no intention of anything like T. Rex's egomaniacal conceit.

Some Grant biographer's claim he wanted the nomination, others argue he quite clearly did not. Since there is not a single letter, public utterance, or diary entry that he wanted a third term, I think we must side with the claim that he was not very interested.

Failing that, the authoritative source must surely be Julia, the person who knew Grant best:

How I entreated him to…appear on the floor at the (1880 Republican) convention…but no! He said he would rather cut off his right hand. I said: ‘Do you not desire success?’ ‘Well, yes, of course,’ he said, ‘since my name is up, I would rather be nominated, but I will do nothing to further that end.’

52 posted on 12/04/2014 10:45:58 AM PST by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47 -- with leather.)
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To: Jim Noble

As a matter of fact, of ALL the things they could do to highlight the lawlessness of this regime — and to signal that he is not a dictator who can bypass what the Founders clearly intended to be the most powerful branch of government at will — would be to send him a note to the effect that he is not invited to appear in their venue.


53 posted on 12/04/2014 10:48:55 AM PST by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47 -- with leather.)
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