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I know many Freepers are on the leading edge of knowledge of all that has happened in the last 24 hours regarding Obama's Executive Amnesty including impending lawsuits to be filed by states.

And I am confident the lawsuits can put the kibosh on Obama's amnesty lawlessness, why? Because either a Temporary Federal Restraining Order or a Preliminary Federal Injunction can be quickly obtained while a lawsuit proceeds. And the temporary court order can last at least a year and possibly two, enough time for a Conservative Candidate to mount a campaign for President based on lawless amnesty.

But there is a 'glitch' and the Obama people may have deliberately caused it so that the lawsuits remain on hold. Here I describe what this 'glitch' could be.

Look here at the statement taken from above:

As Breitbart Texas' Kristin Tate reported, Abbott has vowed to file suit in federal court "as soon as possible" after Obama signs his executive order.

Let's repeat the operative phrase above in CAPS:

"...AFTER OBAMA SIGNS HIS EXECUTIVE ORDER."

Where is this EO?

There is a summary on the White House Website but there is no signed order that I have been able to find. If any Freeper can find it, then one of the concerns raised in this thread goes away.

Without the signed EO for Executive Amnesty, the states may find it difficult to proceed in Court.

There are rumors that Obama is not planning on signing an EO, just in directing his departments by informal communications on what they must do. That includes issuing ID CARDS which also serve to trigger issuance of work permits, SSNs and illegal registrations to vote. The CARDS are the lynchpin to the whole scheme.

It is probable that Obama's people know that a signed EO can be used as the basis for states to get into court to stop the CARDS.

So it is possible the Obama people are tying up court action by not issuing the officially signed EO.

But there is a way to get around having to use the EO attached to the filing of a motion.

The states can proceed because there is a solicitation for an RFP to manufacture up to 34 million CARDS for "future immigration reform initiatives" and this solicitation is in fact illegal as there is no law or appropriation that authorizes its release.

In other words, the states file to stop the solicitation for the CARDS. Without the cards, Obama is stopped cold. If any contractor tries to make the cards and there is a federal court order that stops the cards, then the contractor and the federal officials involved are subject to arrest on charges of contempt of court.

Obama need people to carry out his directives. If these people balk because they know they will be going to jail, then the CARDS do not get made. do not get issued and Obama's plan is left as strings of words in the air.

1 posted on 11/21/2014 11:43:54 AM PST by Hostage
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To: Hostage

Very real possibility...

Knew it was coming for weeks, but now he’ll consider it.

Cheeze whiz...


2 posted on 11/21/2014 11:47:32 AM PST by DoughtyOne (The mid-term elections were perfect for him. Now Obama can really lead from behind.)
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I could not find it yet.

It is not at WikiDocs, which has all EO in history, nor at the Whitehouse EO page, at least as of last night.

White House site:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

Still not there.


4 posted on 11/21/2014 11:57:03 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Hostage

As much as I would like to see the GOP we put in power ride to the rescue here, over they past few years I have come to think of them as the remaining female die in beer dive at 1:00 AM (back when I wore a much younger dices’ white and black dots): If I keep my standards really low, I’m much less likely to be disappointed.
My Gee Oh Pee beer-goggles see the new majority critters bushing-out their fur to appear larger, doing a lot of harrumphing and fist-shaking, and then looking around, sighing and finally going home because it’s Friday as well as way too close to the holidays.
And it’s just a lot of bother, much like defending conservative groups from a predatory IRS, particularly since quite a few of their number think amnesty is great, but as pragmatists they know the country thinks “comprehensive immigration reform” is just a big wad of boiled spinach.
So get ready for a lot of Disasterpiece Theater. Maybe they’ll surprise us ... but I’ll keep my eye on the hefty but hot heifer over in the corner slamming back tequila shots.


9 posted on 11/21/2014 12:06:38 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Hostage
There are rumors that Obama is not planning on signing an EO, just in directing his departments by informal communications on what they must do.

Well, if that is the Zero's plan, it sounds pretty weak. Essentially, what he would be doing is saying to his minions, "Hey, I want you to break the law or be negligent in your duties, and oh by the way, this is unofficial and your ass is the one on the line if something bad comes of it."

Only an idiot (and I admit there are many out there) would take him up on that offer.

If not signing anything official was his "plan", then the only purpose in his announcing anything is pandering and stirring up the masses, which is what a community organizer does.

11 posted on 11/21/2014 12:17:58 PM PST by Magnum44 (I have had just about enough)
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To: Hostage

I’ll beleave it when I see it really happen, Rick.
Till then.....Bull Shit from your mouth.


14 posted on 11/21/2014 1:06:15 PM PST by MtnMan101
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Governor, we elected you to govern not file lawsuits.

Disregard this edict for any illegals found in Texas and jail/prosecute them.

DARE the feds to go against state Law enforcement. There will will be 100k armed Texans standing at your side.


16 posted on 11/21/2014 1:11:40 PM PST by bestintxas (Every time a RINO is defeated a Founding Father gets his wings.)
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Perry is a fraud. He has said he supports a "pathway to citizenship", aka, amnesty.

If he has any real objections it is probably that he wanted to enact it and Barry beat him to it.

22 posted on 11/21/2014 5:59:10 PM PST by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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Great point.

Where is this E/O? There is a summary on the White House Website but no signed order. Without the signed E/O, states may find it difficult to proceed in the Courts. It is probable that Obama's people know that a signed E/O can be used as the basis for states' court action.....possibly the Obama people are tying up court action by not issuing and officially signed E/O.

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There are rumors that Obama is not planning on signing an E/O, just directing federal departments by informal communications on what they must do. That includes issuing ID CARDS which triggers issuance of work permits, SSNs and illegal registrations to vote.

REALITY CHECK It is being reported that he will issue orders and not sign an E/O. The Las Vegas rally was billed as the "E/O signing ceremony." Anybody actually see it?

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The CARDS are the lynchpin to the whole E/O scheme---b/c the House can defund card-making activity....and all of the activities attached to that move.

37 posted on 11/22/2014 3:33:03 AM PST by Liz
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EXHIBIT A---One of Congress' most astute patriots---a former judge---was in high dudgeon. Rep Louis Gohmert (Rep-Tx) issued a high alert----"by law, people are in the country illegally are not permitted to work."

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EXHIBIT B ---Back in October 2011, Cong Gohmert questioned then-DHS Secy Janet Napolitano about Obama appointee, Mohamed Elibiary, a member of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) with a high level security clearance, who allegedly accessed, illegally from his home computer, a Texas State and Local Intelligence Community database.....(Elibiary is now out--ousted for shady activities).

Napolitano managed to unglue her lips from Obama's behind---and told Cong Gohmert she knew nothing about it, and that she would "personally" do the investigation. (waiting for hysterical laughter to die down)

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EXHIBIT C--- Eye-opening exchanges at the recent House Judiciary hearing on immigration.

(Keep in mind, Obama told Americans that illegal criminals would be weeded out under his E/O).

Patriot Cong Randy Forbes said Americans need to know if violent gang members are walking their streets. Forbes asked Obama appointee to USCIS (A DHS agency) Leon Rodrigues---whether the agency asked applicants about gang membership---and when they invariably reply no, how does the agency know whether it's true or not?

The calculated Rodriguez would not reveal information---Forbes insisted on knowing "do you even ask them if they're gang members."

Even more interesting was watching brilliant Cong Louie Gohmert (Rep-Tx) set the trap for the oily Rodriguez.

<><><> Former judge Gohmert's brilliant circumlocution was awesome. He nailed the mealy-mouth Rodrigues to the wall.

CONG GOHMERT: WRT drug cartels paid $6,000-10,000 to "guide" the hordes over the border---"Would you, as a former prosecutor, call them criminals?," he nonchalantly asked Gonzales.

The smirking Rodrigues stepped headlong into the trap as Cong Gohmert casually hoisted him on his own petard.....making the point that if the hordes were coming here to escape drug cartels, why is it they consort w/ the criminals, and pay the violent breed to get over the border?

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BACKSTORY .....a secret draft solicitation for bids issued Oct 6 by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS---a DHS agency) states potential vendors must be capable of handling a “surge” scenario of 9 million ID cards in one year “to support possible future immigration reform initiative requirements” ..... the Obama administration has quietly begun preparing to issue millions of work authorization permits, suggesting the implementation of a large-scale executive amnesty may have already begun...

ACTION ALERT: USCIS is headed by Obama appointee---Leon Rodrigues--Obama's errand boy. Rodrigues is rubber- stamping undesirables from 144 countries into the US....including those from contagion-ridden Central America and Ebola- stricken countries.

During FY 2013, the DHS website showed US Border Patrol agents apprehended 112 immigrants from Guinea, 231 from Liberia and 145 immigrants from Sierra Leone,----three countries currently experiencing the most cases of Ebola.

SIGNIFICANTLY USCIS Rodrigues also oversees EB-5 visas. Under Rodrigues' purview---EB-5's are said to involve major threats to US national security:

ARE OBAMA/RODRIGUES SELLING US CITIZENSHIP TO (a) MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS-(b) ISIS TERRORISTS---(c) CONTAGIOUS ALIENS ?--

In an earlier statement, Sen Charles Grassley (REPUB--IOWA) said ICE identified key vulnerabilities in EB-5 visas

1) Export of sensitive technology/economic espionage.

2) Use by foreign government agents/espionage.

3) Use by terrorists.

4) Investment fraud by regional center.

5) Investment fraud by investors.

6) Fraud conspiracies by investors and regional center.

7) Illicit finance/money laundering.

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Rodriguez's confirmation hearings revealed he was a board member of Casa Maryland---a latino-centric advocacy group---pushing for unlimited immigration, and has connections to nationwide immigrant groups.

39 posted on 11/22/2014 3:50:55 AM PST by Liz
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