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School tells kids: Stop praying to Jesus, singing Amazing Grace (Colorado Springs)
Fox News ^ | November 10, 2014 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 11/11/2014 6:57:03 AM PST by Olog-hai

Christian students at a Colorado public high school were told they could no longer meet to pray, sing religious songs or discuss religious topics during free time – because such activity violated the U.S. Constitution, a lawsuit filed in federal court alleges.

Chase Windebank is a senior at Pine Creek High School in Colorado Springs. Three years ago he started meeting together informally with his classmates for prayer and religious fellowship. The young people would meet in an unoccupied choir room to sing songs like “Amazing Grace” and discuss the issues of the day from a religious perspective.

But all that changed on Sept. 29th when Chase was summoned to the office of Assistant Principal James Lucas.

“He was told that he could no longer pray with his fellow students during free time because of the separation of church and state,” said Jeremy Tedesco, an attorney representing the teenager. …

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: academicbias; atheismandstate; athesitsupremacist; coloradosprings; constitution; culturewar; firstamendment; homofascism; liberalagenda; naughtteacherslist; religiousfreedom; waronchristianity
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1 posted on 11/11/2014 6:57:03 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

free time isn’t so free, is it?


2 posted on 11/11/2014 6:59:49 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Olog-hai
because such activity violated the U.S. Constitution,

Exactly where?

3 posted on 11/11/2014 7:00:01 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Olog-hai

I’m glad to see lawsuits pop up over these things. All it takes is one complainer to make the schools infringe on the rights of everyone else over the fear of lawsuits. It’s about time to fight fire with fire. Good for them.


4 posted on 11/11/2014 7:00:28 AM PST by kevslisababy
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To: Olog-hai

Public school kids: Don’t you know that you can only talk about sex or 4 letter words?


5 posted on 11/11/2014 7:01:28 AM PST by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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To: Olog-hai

The Constitution means whatever the Democrat-du-jour wants it to mean. I hope this country is awakening to the freedoms we have lost with the Democraps in charge. ENOUGH!!


6 posted on 11/11/2014 7:01:56 AM PST by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: Olog-hai

I dare them to go to this radio station at a state school and complain about the gospel music in the morning

http://wnaamail.wix.com/901thevoice


7 posted on 11/11/2014 7:02:39 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Olog-hai

Tell the overpaid administrator:

“NO, my praying DOES NOT violate “Separation of Church and State”!

The concept does not exist in the Constitution.

BUT, the FREE EXERCISE CLAUSE of the 1st Amendment DOES protect my right to pray!


8 posted on 11/11/2014 7:03:50 AM PST by G Larry (Amnesty imposes SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL immigrants & minorities)
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To: Olog-hai

Okay, kids. Time to practice some civil disobedience.


9 posted on 11/11/2014 7:03:50 AM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: Olog-hai

Sounds like there should have been sin-ins and pray ins every day. Let then start the mass suspensions and lose the funding that goes with attendance; qne the proliferating lawsuits that would follow.


10 posted on 11/11/2014 7:04:33 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Olog-hai

I’d tell them to go ahead and put me in detention because I won’t quit.


11 posted on 11/11/2014 7:05:13 AM PST by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: silverleaf

The Constitution is meant to prevent the GOVERNMENT from establishing a single religious viewpoint.

If the SCHOOL was the one MANDATING the prayers, then that would violate the Constitution.

NOTHING the students (who are not the government in this instance) do, can violate the Constitution (although they
may violate good order, which the school has to maintain).


12 posted on 11/11/2014 7:06:44 AM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Olog-hai

The only religion allowed in public schools is Marxism. Sounds like some teachers are mad about the election.

Pray America is waking


13 posted on 11/11/2014 7:06:44 AM PST by bray (Palin/Perry)
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To: kevslisababy

If any public school (or any public building) anywhere in the US allows a muslim prayer room or accommodations, then the school boards have no standing to deny this

Or the same silly made-up rule about “separating church and state” needs to apply to all. It’s called equal protections


14 posted on 11/11/2014 7:07:26 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Olog-hai

If I had a child going to school there, I will pull him/her out immediately and encourage everyone else to do the same.


15 posted on 11/11/2014 7:08:35 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (Get the USA out of the UN then get the UN out of the USA; send bamaboy back to Kenya ASAP!!!!)
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To: Olog-hai

It seems that ignorance is a job-requirement for employment in American public schools. There is black-letter law establishing the right of private prayer in public schools, provided it does not disrupt classes, and of students to organize religious clubs.

Presumably once the district superintendent has a brief laying out the relevant precedents, whichever nitwit did this, the assistant principal or someone up the chain of command from him, will get slapped down and an actual lawsuit will be unnecessary.


16 posted on 11/11/2014 7:09:28 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Don Corleone; All
The only constitution it “violates” is the old Soviet one. Or maybe the current Chinese one too?
Citizens of the USSR are guaranteed freedom of conscience, that is, the right to profess or not to profess any religion, and to conduct religious worship or atheistic propaganda. Incitement of hostility or hatred on religious grounds is prohibited. In the USSR, the church is separated from the state, and the school from the church.
— Article 52 of 1977 USSR constitution

Citizens of the People’s Republic of China enjoy freedom of religious belief. No state organ, public organization or individual may compel citizens to believe in, or not to believe in, any religion; nor may they discriminate against citizens who believe in, or do not believe in, any religion. The state protects normal religious activities. No one may make use of religion to engage in activities that disrupt public order, impair the health of citizens or interfere with the educational system of the state. Religious bodies and religious affairs are not subject to any foreign domination.
— Article 36 of Red China's constitution
The Colorado Springs teachers are openly declaring themselves to be “the state” in this respect, take note.
17 posted on 11/11/2014 7:09:30 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Chase Windebank is a senior at Pine Creek High School in Colorado Springs. Three years ago he started meeting together informally with his classmates for prayer and religious fellowship. The young people would meet in an unoccupied choir room to sing songs like “Amazing Grace” and discuss the issues of the day from a religious perspective. But all that changed on Sept. 29th when Chase was summoned to the office of Assistant Principal James Lucas. “He was told that he could no longer pray with his fellow students during free time because of the separation of church and state,” said Jeremy Tedesco, an attorney representing the teenager. …

I'd sue the hell out of the school.

18 posted on 11/11/2014 7:09:41 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: bray

To me it sounds like every teacher enforcing this needs to be fired. Would they prohibit little Hasan from using his prayer rug too?

This is exactly why I homeschool. Not only are my children free to sing to Jesus, they also aren’t exposed to the other poison that publik skools feed their detainees year round.


19 posted on 11/11/2014 7:10:45 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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