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Obama: Regulate broadband Internet like a utility so it 'works for everyone'
c/net ^ | November 10, 2014 | Don Reisinger

Posted on 11/10/2014 11:38:48 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota

President Obama urged the US government to adopt tighter regulations on broadband service in an effort to preserve "a free and open Internet."

In a statement released Monday, Obama called on the Federal Communications Commission to enforce the principle of treating all Internet traffic the same way, known in shorthand as Net neutrality. That means treating broadband services like utilities, the president said, so that Internet service providers would be unable "to restrict the best access or to pick winners and losers in the online marketplace for services and ideas."

Obama wades into a contentious debate that has raged over how to treat Internet traffic, which has only heated up as the FCC works to prepare an official guideline. Those rules were expected to be made available later this year, though reports now claim they may be delayed until early 2015. The debate has centered on whether broadband should be placed under Title II regulation under the Telecommunications Act, which already tightly controls phone services.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: internet; netneutrality
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To: Straight Vermonter
Neither of which is relevant because they are not able to deliver broadband.

DSL is broadband - And as I said, soon they will be back in the competition, delivering close to cable speeds...

141 posted on 11/10/2014 3:05:23 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Mariner

Hypothetically, without net neutrality, an ISP could team up with, say, Amazon and offer access to Prime Video in their basic tier while blocking out Netflix until you pay for an extra package. Same bandwidth, so you can’t trot out the erroneous “free ride” epithet against NN. That’s what this is about.


142 posted on 11/10/2014 3:05:31 PM PST by zoso82t
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To: roamer_1
DSL is broadband


143 posted on 11/10/2014 3:17:05 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Well, they want to control bandwidth and speed. It’s not so much content as it is flow.


144 posted on 11/10/2014 3:18:17 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: Minsc

The Internet providers are pushing to get you to pay more for services delivered over the networks they built.

Fixed it for you.


145 posted on 11/10/2014 3:19:50 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
HEADLINE: Obama: Regulate broadband Internet like a utility so it 'works for everyone' Liberals can control 'unacceptable' speech and tax the sh!t out of it

There. I fixed it.

146 posted on 11/10/2014 3:20:06 PM PST by Gritty (Obama wants to wage war by measuring it out in teaspoons - Ralph Peters)
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To: Vermont Lt; zoso82t
Well, they want to control bandwidth and speed. It’s not so much content as it is flow.

They already have speed tiers. They know customers hate bandwidth caps. They want to get paid to allow access to content. Read post 142, he gave a better example than I have been able to.

147 posted on 11/10/2014 3:26:01 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: NELSON111

It’s not happening yet. He’s saying that’s where cable ISPs want to go in a few years.


148 posted on 11/10/2014 3:35:33 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: zoso82t
"Hypothetically, without net neutrality, an ISP could team up with, say, Amazon and offer access to Prime Video in their basic tier while blocking out Netflix until you pay for an extra package. Same bandwidth, so you can’t trot out the erroneous “free ride” epithet against NN. That’s what this is about."

Not true.

An ISP is already a regulated entity with a public franchise. All access providers are already regulated. Locally.

They can be sent packing and their franchise turned over to another provider...IF they are the only provider in town.

In most cases they are not and the customer has control over what provider they use.

This is about CONTENT providers in a row with Backbone Providers. It has nothing to do with access. that's a non sequitor.

149 posted on 11/10/2014 3:57:14 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Ray76
"It’s not Netflix who is consuming Comcast’s bandwidth, it is Comcast’s customers."

What you cite is a prima facie anti-trust case against Comcast.

Comcast is an access provider and they are already regulated. Locally.

Net Neutrality is about how the Backbone providers treat Content providers and whether they can offer an increase service level for more money.

NN says they cannot.

150 posted on 11/10/2014 4:01:27 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Sure! let’s take the law of supply and demand completely out of the equation - ok?

All animals are equal after all. Just some are more equal than others. I bet their ‘net neutrality’ rules are exempt for them.


151 posted on 11/10/2014 4:04:12 PM PST by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Yes, my space hamster, Boo!


152 posted on 11/10/2014 4:10:10 PM PST by Minsc
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To: Mariner

The goals stated may be laudable but federal regulation is not the answer. Additionally, I do not for an instant trust Obama or believe that the stated goals are the only goals.


153 posted on 11/10/2014 4:13:44 PM PST by Ray76 (We must destroy the Uniparty or be destroyed by them.)
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To: Straight Vermonter
DSL speed could soon get a boost with new technologies
154 posted on 11/10/2014 4:16:01 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: 4Speed
I can see Obama, too:


155 posted on 11/10/2014 4:34:58 PM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: roamer_1

I hope that gets here soon. As always, competition is the answer to sort this out.


156 posted on 11/10/2014 4:37:50 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Obama want to do to the internet, what cable TV has done to broadcast television and radio.

You’ll get a thousand channels after paying 1/3 your take-home pay and only get 1-3 channels you can watch if you pay an extra surcharge.


157 posted on 11/10/2014 4:40:59 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: zoso82t
The ISP could charge Customer A more, because they consumed more bandwidth, but COULD NOT charge them extra simply for the right to access Netflix.

Pretty much the same thing.

What are they accessing Netflix for, if not to stream video and use more bandwidth?

158 posted on 11/10/2014 5:02:24 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Eva
We already know that government union employees think that limiting conservatives is social justice. We cannot allow federal employees to control anymore of our freedom.

You're worried about freedom?

You think the internet will bring you freedom?

LOL

Internet and technology in general is hemming all of us in--taking one option after another away from each of us--until one day you will awaken to the fact that technology has you cornered with nowhere to turn.

159 posted on 11/10/2014 5:13:43 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: LucianOfSamasota

I don’t live where cable is accessible (rural).

I have satellite TV.

I used SkyBlue for awhile (I had other options, the TV provider for one. SkyBlue seemed the best of bad options). I paid something like $100/month with a bandwidth limit that made streaming impossible. For the year plus I was using that service, netflix was a DVD account.

Then.

Local company. Over the air internet. (Antenna to receiver) Unlimited bandwidth with the provision that during peak times, bandwidth may slow equally for all users at the single antenna if demand is high.

Now. I stream netflix by receiver. I’ve never had a problem with speed, or if I did, it’s so rare I attributed it to a problem with my modem/box. Cost: $84/month and no bandwidth limit.

My old system sucked. Some entrepreneur noticed and provided a better system. I’m happy now.

The free market worked.

And I didn’t need govt regulation. Not only that, I strongly suspect regulation would have done little more than force me to pay more for SkyBlue.


160 posted on 11/10/2014 5:28:12 PM PST by ziravan (Choose Sides.)
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