Posted on 11/02/2014 5:33:59 AM PST by Kaslin
Look, Im not going to lie to you your vote matters. But lets be honest, there are Republicans on the ballot who arent very conservative. Most of them dont agree with me on everything and surely dont agree with you on everything. In fact, many of them are downright awful.
So if you find yourself in a state where the Senate race is close, and you dont like some of the things the Republican candidate stands for just stay home.
A message must be sent: We conservatives could not beat all the people we dont like in the primary, so were not going to vote.
Thatll show the establishment. Thatll show the country. Thatll show the future.
So if youre a conservative in Colorado, dont vote for Cory Gardner. If youre in Iowa, show that Joni Ernst whats what! Live in North Carolina? Who does that Thom Tillis think he is, anyway? From Kentucky? Let Mitch McConnell know whos boss! Georgia? David Perdue? I dont think so. Kansas? Teach that Pat Roberts a lesson! Live in New Hampshire? Scott Brown yuck, am I right?
Look, if conservatives dont draw a line in 2014, when will it be drawn?
Just because tea party and conservative candidates couldnt win a majority in primary challenges doesnt mean they arent the majority. It was dirty tricks and the establishment that screwed you everyone knows that. So show the establishment you wont take not getting your way anymore.
Honestly, whats the point of voting for a candidate who agrees with you a majority of the time? Dont vote. Let someone who you agree with on nothing win, and then next time in six years that person comes up for reelection, maybe the Republican Party will come to its senses and let you get your way.
I mean, what would be better for the country Harry Reid or Mitch McConnell as Senate Majority Leader? Obviously Harry Reid. Mitch McConnell is a squish on a few things, wouldnt run blocker for President Obama and wouldnt be a rubberstamp for any Supreme Court nominee, or any court, for that matter. Wheres the lesson for the establishment for that?
Sure, I know, the country will have a court system packed with activist judges, and the president will use his magic pen and phone to grant amnesty to millions of illegal aliens and who knows what else, but principle will be maintained. Thats a moral victory, right? Those count for something in politics, right? They have to count for something
Of course, they count for nothing. Yet that nothing is what many millions of Americans, including many of you (judging by comments on other columns in which Ive dealt with this topic), are prepared to vote for by stubbornly refusing to vote for a candidate who isnt your candidate.
Sorry, your candidate lost, and your remaining choice sucks. I get it, Ive been there. But so what! Get over yourself. Everyone who voted in the primary and your choice lost. It happens. Its part of life. So youre just going to quit?
If you want to right the ship of state, how did you think that would work? Your one chosen candidate would somehow undo half a century of constitutional disregard in 20 minutes? Of course not. Its all going to be incremental. Nothing this big turns on a dime. But before it can get any better it has to stop getting worse.
Harry Reid remaining majority leader in the Senate means things continue to get worse. Barack Obama packing the courts with like-minded judges means things will continue to get worse.
There will come a point of no return, where we will tip over that ledge from which there is no coming back. If you stay home, or you cast a message vote for some third party nothing-burger, thats what youre voting for. Thats what youll get, and thats the country youll be leaving for your kids to inherit.
A vote for anyone other than the Republican, no matter who that Republican is, is a vote for Harry Reid and Barack Obama.
You want to purge the party? Do it from a position of strength. Im all for a battle royale for the soul of the Republican Party, but not until AFTER the Democrats are vanquished.
Tuesday, go vote. Vote for the Republicans. Send a message that you are not a moody, unreliable person who will take your ball and go home if you dont get your way, but that you accept your partys primary decision. Its a decision you dont like. Its a decision youll fight in the next primary if necessary. But for the good of the country, youll live in now and work for the future.
Anything else is a vote for progressives, and anyone who does that is no conservative.
True of the Republican Party since the time of Teddy Roosevelt, who was a Liberal, with the exception of Calvin Coolidge and possibly Ronald Reagan. The truth is, Conservatives, especially committed Christians, have not been welcome in the Republican Party for over 100 years. To be sure Conservatives were not very much of a problem before 1980. They didnt say much and werent very active except for their money and their vote before then.
I cast my last liberal POTUS vote for McCain which means I need not answer for him. My answers are as to Myth Romney.
1. Romneycare would have been the name of Myth's program and he would have included gender reassignment surgery and other abominations.
2. Cancellation of insurance under Romneycare might have or might not have resulted in more deaths. Incompetence counts here. Romneycare probably would lead to fewer deaths not by design but by competence.
3. The judiciary would have been packed with leftist morons in black robes under Romney (or McCain) as well as under Obozo.
4. Romney crammed "gay""marriage" down the throats of Taxachusetts Town Clerks, thereby exceeding his authority because that state's Supreme Judicial Court had ruled it a legislative function. Why would he be more bashful about massacring the US constitution as to amnesty?
5. It will be no easier than undoing the damage done under Bush I and Bush II, or under Clinton or under Carter, or under Ford or under Nixon, etc.
It’s called “keeping people accountable”.
If you are expecting them to be perfect .. you’re in for a big surprise.
Yes, it’s called .. acting like an adult.
There is no such thing as perfection, and you just can’t get everything you want in life. Sometimes, just sometimes, you have to make choices that give you some advantage for now, and you get the rest later.
Funny, that is what the dems do; incrementally; not all at once. That’s what we’re doing. A little here; a litter there; and then we’ll be in the position where we can do some bigger and better things.
Too bad you never learned that.
Oh yeah, thank you for your service.
Sorry buddy. You’re just plain wrong, simple as that.
It is the obligation of every able American voter to go to the polls and cast a ballot.
There is no excuse not to. So hit the polling booth and vote your conscience. Everybody!
I wonder if the democrat party would welcome committed Christian conservatives. If so, that would be a disaster for the GOP.
It’s a sad history, but the sleeping giant is awake.
Obozocare would be renamed Romneycare and be at least as bad. Romney never really had an Ebola opportunity so we don't know on that one. If Romney did not do better on the economy in his sleep, we would be wondering how the hell the putz got nominated in the first place.
Of course, you are conveniently forgetting a few other issues. A Myth Romney White House would be making abortionist of the month awards. Myth is a total enthusiast for every "gay" agenda item known to man or beast. Neither Myth nor any known male in his family has EVER donned a military uniform. They all wanted to, you understand, but were busy for as many years as necessary as "missionaries" and it is just soooo hard, especially in wartime, to do justice to both.
Envirowhackoism? Moving American factory jobs to Bangladesh? Bleeding every nickel available from the economy to boost corporate coffers at the bottom line and at the expense of ordinary folks? Myth Romney, spoiled brat extraordinaire at your service! Or at their service! Oh, you know what Myth is up to!
Am I the only one who would be driven to distraction by four years of square-jawed Dudley Do Right (a phony image if ever there was one) in the White House posing as a Republican????
We should live OTOH, as though He will not return at any time in our lifetimes but also as though He were returning today. should we not? No one will know when in advance on the face of this Earth.
In any event, may God continue to bless you and yours!
You liked Romney's nomination victory well enough to vote for him in the general election. If you had been ten or a hundred times as enthusiastic for him, you still could not legally vote for him MORE than you actually did. You gave him your all. You own the result.
You and others like you were warned well in advance of the certain consequence (defeat in the general) of nominating Myth Romney. Not only did you vote for him, but your "strategy" is to vote for any Republican, no matter how bad, in any general election, telling the GOP-E that you are their willing stooge.
They buy the nominations with oceans of money and "conservatives" like you will auto-vote for the trash nominees whose nominations were BOUGHT by people who care only about their corporate profit levels and not at all for most conservative principles. Then you lurk on a CONSERVATIVE website like Free Republic to demoralize actual conservatives which you will not succeed in doing.
As an attorney (now recovering) I represented 1100 abortion mill Rescuers without fee and 30 were convicted of anything. One paid a fine to get a receipt to show his grandchildren to prove he was arrested saving babies. One paid a fine to go back home several states away. Fewer than 10 did any jail time post court proceedings and that was at a country club jail. No one agreed to probation. Almost all convicted (say 20 out of 30) were convicted of the non-criminal equivalent of parking tickets (infractions) and ordered to pay fines, which they left the court house and never paid. I also represented National Rifle Association members arrested for gun violations in my state.
By comparison to just these items in a much lengthier resume, did YOU DO YOUR FRIGGIN' JOB as to conservative activity? I would gladly see Ted Cruz nominated (especially if he can use the LBJ era law allowing him to seek re-election to the Senate, just in case). Sarah Palin is capable of a good run as well. Joni Ernst is our Senate candidate next door. She should land in DC running. She is an extraordinary candidate. Ben Sasse appears to be another. Perhaps Cory Gardner as well. Scott Walker has been quite controversial as a principled office holder at several levels but he has a golden touch with the electorate in a verrrry tough state on the eve of his re-election bid.
My backside is a bit broader than it used to be back then but, if it were much more narrow, I would still be past the point of physical activism. What stamina I have is used up going to Mass and shopping for groceries. What I do now, other than vote, I do on the computer and the internet. If that is not good enough for you, I don't really care. I will NOT vote EVER for Senator Mark "Nancyboy" Kirk or for my Congressthing Adam Kinzinger who is a footstool for Boehner and the Chambers of Commerce. Don't like it? Toooo badddd!
When I vote "against the commies," I vote against them whether they run as Demonrats or Republicans. If Myth Romney is nominated again, I will not vote for him again.
I will listen to Jeb but he provides no excitement and his parents ar still his parents. Rand Paul seems unreliable which is an improvement over his father who was merely nuts. Rand is also up for re-election in 2016. What does Rand need, issue-wise to withdraw and throw his support to Cruz? It would not be a popular choice here but Marco Rubio, if he can get over his support for normalizing the irregular and illegal immigration, is another sharp candidate and also up for re-election in 2016.
Why not nominate Ted Cruz and line up the other young stars to criss-cross the country tirelessly as surrogates for Ted? Let Ted Cruz and Rubio campaign in Spanish as well as English. Try to recruit Illinois's own Bruce Rauner (very substantial warts on social issues and all) to handle some serious fund-raising and to keep him away from Romney.
Consider Joni Ernst for VPOTUS. Iowa Governor Terry Brandstad will appoint a suitably conservative successor if she wins.
Above all, conservatives must unite behind one candidate, early on as in during 2015. Have a pecking order of others who come in from the bullpen in order if the prior candidate(s) fail(s) for any reason. Vet the lead candidates as though they were SCOTUS nominees. ssume that any hidden dirt will be found and choose accordingly. Accept that conservatives must meet a higher standard than leftists in the party primary and in the general election.
It is time for business to take a giant step backwards. Bringing back the blue collar Reagan democrats is job #1. Do that with a serious job expansion effort and social conservatism and support for gun owners and their 2nd Amendment rights. Judicial nominations: No more social revolutionaries for SCOTUS, Courts of Appeal and District Courts.
There are Obamunist schemes to force low income housing schemes on suburbs and inner rural areas. This insanity was actually imagined by George Romney when he was HUD Secretary. Nixon learned of the scheme and immediately fired George Romney. Convince blue collars that no such program will be tolerated. Convince actual Republicans that "Romney" is again a four-letter word.
We are not going to organize the Junior League or the other hereditary "Republicans" whose great grand daddies fought at Shiloh or Antietam. They gone. We can make progress by extensive ghetto and barrio campaigning. Most blacks and a lot of Hispanics have NEVER been asked for their votes by a Republican. A GOP oriented to folks of modest means and one that campaigns in such neighborhoods can build street cred where now there is none. Defense of the Second Amendment, of unborn babies and opposition to "gay" everything won't hurt either. Nor will real solutions to the awful condition of public education in poor areas.
There is more but I am well past bedtime.
As an attorney (now recovering) I represented 1100 abortion mill Rescuers without fee and 30 were convicted of anything. One paid a fine to get a receipt to show his grandchildren to prove he was arrested saving babies. One paid a fine to go back home several states away. Fewer than 10 did any jail time post court proceedings and that was at a country club jail. No one agreed to probation. Almost all convicted (say 20 out of 30) were convicted of the non-criminal equivalent of parking tickets (infractions) and ordered to pay fines, which they left the court house and never paid. I also represented National Rifle Association members arrested for gun violations in my state.
By comparison to just these items in a much lengthier resume, did YOU DO YOUR FRIGGIN' JOB as to conservative activity? I would gladly see Ted Cruz nominated (especially if he can use the LBJ era law allowing him to seek re-election to the Senate, just in case). Sarah Palin is capable of a good run as well. Joni Ernst is our Senate candidate next door. She should land in DC running. She is an extraordinary candidate. Ben Sasse appears to be another. Perhaps Cory Gardner as well. Scott Walker has been quite controversial as a principled office holder at several levels but he has a golden touch with the electorate in a verrrry tough state on the eve of his re-election bid.
My backside is a bit broader than it used to be back then but, if it were much more narrow, I would still be past the point of physical activism. What stamina I have is used up going to Mass and shopping for groceries. What I do now, other than vote, I do on the computer and the internet. If that is not good enough for you, I don't really care. I will NOT vote EVER for Senator Mark "Nancyboy" Kirk or for my Congressthing Adam Kinzinger who is a footstool for Boehner and the Chambers of Commerce. Don't like it? Toooo badddd!
When I vote "against the commies," I vote against them whether they run as Demonrats or Republicans. If Myth Romney is nominated again, I will not vote for him again.
I will listen to Jeb but he provides no excitement and his parents ar still his parents. Rand Paul seems unreliable which is an improvement over his father who was merely nuts. Rand is also up for re-election in 2016. What does Rand need, issue-wise to withdraw and throw his support to Cruz? It would not be a popular choice here but Marco Rubio, if he can get over his support for normalizing the irregular and illegal immigration, is another sharp candidate and also up for re-election in 2016.
Why not nominate Ted Cruz and line up the other young stars to criss-cross the country tirelessly as surrogates for Ted? Let Ted Cruz and Rubio campaign in Spanish as well as English. Try to recruit Illinois's own Bruce Rauner (very substantial warts on social issues and all) to handle some serious fund-raising and to keep him away from Romney.
Consider Joni Ernst for VPOTUS. Iowa Governor Terry Brandstad will appoint a suitably conservative successor if she wins.
Above all, conservatives must unite behind one candidate, early on as in during 2015. Have a pecking order of others who come in from the bullpen in order if the prior candidate(s) fail(s) for any reason. Vet the lead candidates as though they were SCOTUS nominees. ssume that any hidden dirt will be found and choose accordingly. Accept that conservatives must meet a higher standard than leftists in the party primary and in the general election.
It is time for business to take a giant step backwards. Bringing back the blue collar Reagan democrats is job #1. Do that with a serious job expansion effort and social conservatism and support for gun owners and their 2nd Amendment rights. Judicial nominations: No more social revolutionaries for SCOTUS, Courts of Appeal and District Courts.
There are Obamunist schemes to force low income housing schemes on suburbs and inner rural areas. This insanity was actually imagined by George Romney when he was HUD Secretary. Nixon learned of the scheme and immediately fired George Romney. Convince blue collars that no such program will be tolerated. Convince actual Republicans that "Romney" is again a four-letter word.
We are not going to organize the Junior League or the other hereditary "Republicans" whose great grand daddies fought at Shiloh or Antietam. They gone. We can make progress by extensive ghetto and barrio campaigning. Most blacks and a lot of Hispanics have NEVER been asked for their votes by a Republican. A GOP oriented to folks of modest means and one that campaigns in such neighborhoods can build street cred where now there is none. Defense of the Second Amendment, of unborn babies and opposition to "gay" everything won't hurt either. Nor will real solutions to the awful condition of public education in poor areas.
There is more but I am well past bedtime.
Well, how can anyone argue with such a logical, fact comprehensive, well organized and memorably elegant incisive argument as yours? s/
Did you miss the part where I DIDNT vote for him in primary?
Donated to others?
Once he was the nominee I sucked it up and voted for him.
BECAUSE I UNDER STOOD WHAT A FREAKING DISASTER OBAMA WAS? Something I recognized in 08. I KNEW EXACTLY who and what he was.
So you “ real conservatives” moan and bitch and SIT ON YOUR ASS and SOMEDAY, SOMEDAY your PERFECT candidate MIGHT get nominated.
Great. In the meantime the Progressives, who understand this is WAR not a clever game March the country off a little at a time to the Gulag.
For the final time, if you sat home and didn’t vote for Romney YOU HELPED ELECT OBAMA . If you sit home Tuesday and don’t vote to turn out rats everywhere, you help him AGAIN.
The time for Civil War is in the primaries.
I am a limited government conservative who, until 2012, voted straight Republican ticket in every election since 1976. I still vote in every election. In 2012, I decided to refuse to vote for politicians who sign on to the RAT agenda -- my vote will go elsewhere or if there is no option for declining the RAT agenda in a race, then I will leave that particular race blank on my ballot.
On the other hand, YOU, MadMax, are a LIAR who votes for the RAT agenda in the form of a Republican such as Romney, pretending that you're voting "against" it. What are YOU doing on this board?
Sorry, PAR — Black Elk is right on the money. You, PAR, are the one who is just plain wrong. Simple as that.
YOU have written that you believe informed conservatives have a duty to vote for functional Democrats in Republican Jerseys. And THAT is "the most stupid idea going." I know because like you do now, I subscribed to it for years. Einstein's definition of insanity and all that.
Two lies in as many sentences, and some elementary school namecall-taunting in the bargain.
Kozak, you are as misguided as misguided gets and you KNOW it down deep, otherwise you wouldn't have to a) lie about what Norm does here and your own choice to vote for a functional liberal Democrat in Romney, and b) resort to schoolyard lingo like "numb nuts Normy."
NO WONDER THEY CALL IT THE STUPID PARTY. You are the poster boy, dear. :^(
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