Posted on 10/25/2014 7:57:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz
Whenever one looks at the demographics of the population of America, and how it is changing, it always looks very daunting for conservatives.
I agree. But I'd like to suggest a strategic solution that is very viable.
The Hispanic demographic is ripe for a conservative takeover.
The Hispanic population is a largely-Christian and very religious demographic. They are hard-working, very family-oriented, and tend to be moral. There are, of course, exceptions that disprove this rule, but I am speaking of the big-picture Hispanic population. They tend to have fled from countries that embrace socialism and police-state tactics on the part of the government. In Atlanta, Georgia, I run into a lot of Hispanics, and they are mostly as I describe. They seem to be 'natural conservatives', and if we explain it to them, we may bring them to our side.
These factors lend themselves very well to how we conservatives think. At the moment, the Democrats seem to be winning them over. If we get motivated and directly address them, one-on-one or especially in large groups, we may just capture this group for our own.
It will take a great deal of motivation and a very large effort, but I would like us to consider this as a strategic plan of action. It would require the development of a curriculum that explains America (as it once was) and how we became great. The curriculum would need to explore their country's socialism, and why they lived in the squalor from which they fled. It would need to educate them on the founding of our country, and explain who the founders were -- and how they relate to the current Hispanic situation.
Then, when a curriculum is developed, we would need to organize meetings, perhaps funded by deep-pocket conservative icons, replete with a reasonable give-away to lure them there. We'd need fluent Spanish speakers to explain the curriculum to them.
Obama will issue an Executive Order Amnesty later in 2014, illegally, of course. Imagine, however, if it turned out to be the Liberal, Communist and Democrat Party's undoing.
This is a sound strategic move. We need to start the process.
Well and truly stated ... again.
Well, I hope not! I do not want court-appointed financial managers to take this concept over!!!
LOL
You are either conservative or you are not. Takeover? How would that work?
You appeal to their core beliefs. These are very Christian, very religious, very family-oriented people.
So what’s the message? We might get an equal share of the pie so bring on the green cards?
I don’t buy it. I lived in Los Angeles long enough to have worked with, done business with, and dated oodles of Mexicans. The ‘us versus them’ thing is very strong with that crowd and once Zero starts giving out those green cards, it’s over for the GOP.
Republicans don’t have to win a majority of the Latino vote in most areas. However, they do have to increase their vote to at least 1/3. At the same time Republicans have to increase their white percentage to around 65%.-70%. This is the winning formula for at least another 10 years. Just look to Texas as a prime example as to how Republicans can win. After 10 years, Republicans will have to increase their share of the minority vote even more. Other states, such Alabama, with a very large democrat leaning black population, Repubs win by the unanimity of the white vote. This formula does not work so well in the Northeast or California where the white vote is more evenly split.
As for the purported social conservatism of Hispanics, I suppose this is true. But, often the Latino vote is cast for liberal economic reasons or ethnic pride.
The Creoles, the lowest caste comprised of blacks, mixed-bloods, Indians, slaves, etc, has become the norm since the Spanish lost their colonies, i.e. your average Mexican today would have been a Creole mix-blood in 1650. Back in the day Creoles couldn't own firearms, hold office in either state or Church and all that sort of fun stuff. Their culture was one of dependance on the higher castes and they weren't considered particularly trustworthy by the higher castes either.
When South/Central Americans (again, mostly Creoles) come here and vote Democrat it's because culturally that type of dependance has been bred into them since the Spanish conquered the New World. We're dealing with hundreds of years of cultural Democrat-ness. It's one of the biggest reasons, I think, that Simon Bolivar despaired of South American countries ever achieving the type of republic the United States had -- the Creoles were adverse to individual freedom, and still are. Hence they vote Democrat.
I agree. They are conservative, they just don’t know it yet (I think Reagan said that.)
The Hispanic demographic is ripe for a conservative takeover.
I have always thought that as possible. And, if it happens, the black vote will mean little in the future. Blacks would have Obama and the democrats to thank for weakening their political voice.
If amnesty does come about, republicans should pander to Latinos and give the bird to blacks that sold their souls (abortion, gay marriage, etc.) to the democrats.
I hate to sound like a pessimist BUT the hispanics from Mexico and further south have fled societies with corrupt governments not grounded in the rule of law. The hapless citizens of those countries learn two lessons: 1. How to use the government to get everything they can from that government. 2. How to avoid the adverse effects of the same government on other aspects of their lives. They do this intuitively and probably without a lot of reflection on the whole process.
Those citizens are unfamiliar with the concepts of limited constitutional government, individual freedom, and natural law that (used to) underlie our society. With some exceptions, they will bring what is familiar to them with them and seek to see to replicate it here. The Democrats and their handmaidens, the US Chamber(pot) of Commerce Republicans, will be happy to help them do so.
We have to count the illegals now. They will be voting in 2016. 8% of illegal adults vote now(80% Democrat-20% other) and by 2016 they will all be fiat legal voters. And they will attribute their enfranchisement to the Democrats even if the Republicans jump the gun and vote immediate full citizenship next week.
I’m not working now but when I did I worked with many middle and lower middle class Hispanics, in almost every way they seemed conservative, but voted obama and democrat twice, the exceptions were a couple of Cubans, and like me they could not understand why so many vote democrat, and we had many political discussions that was like cracking coconuts.
The Cubans were fun and very animated in their conservative values, they had a fierceness about them in their expression.
I thought I was quite clear: They are coming anyways, illegally, because of Executive Amnesty.
So let's try a little Political Judo.
Agreed. The “affirmative action” crowd got there first, and even those who aspire to better things are be showered with grants, scholarships, and other loot from the tax collection booty merely because they have a Hispanic surname.
That pie chart doesn’t look that much different than it would for the population as a whole. I think conservatives need to deliver a message that transcends racial and ethnic groupings. Work hard, live right, be responsible for yourselves and your family, and be independent. If you do these things you will prosper without the government controlling your life.
Either those principles resonate with Americans or they do not. It doesn’t matter whether they are Lationo, black or Asian. The politics of racial and ethnic division are the politics of the left.
But I wouldn't.
See, I am around a lot of Hispanics. I'm also around a lot of black folk. They are completely different.
I hate to be cynical and divisive, but the leftist democrats have been doing it to us forever, using the tactics of envy/division, and it has worked for them with GREAT effect. Just look at how 80% - 90% of blacks vote against republicans each and every election. The dems don’t even need to really do anything for them. They’re taken completely for granted. In the same way the republicans just take conservatives for granted the days, I might add. A way needs to be found to turn the black population and Hispanics against one another. This is assuming that an honest up-and-up strategy doesn’t first succeed.
I believe there’s already some dislike and distrust simmering just below the surface between the two. The blacks are afraid the Hispanics are going to come in here, replace them is the most favored minority, and take all of their ‘free stuff’. The leaders of both groups know this, and are trying to keep their respective rank & file united with the other group against ‘Whitey’, but I don’t think their gonna be able to hold it together long term. That’s when the situation will need to be exploited to our benefit, and employ a strategy of divide and conquer.
This is completely against my personal nature and preference, but I’m sick of seeing it done to us year after year. It’s time to use the leftist’s own tactics against them, and see how they like it!
Of course, doing things the ‘right way’ needs to be tried first!
They are.
That's where we come in.
Let's bring them up to speed.
ugh...That shoud be better things are showered.
More coffee...stat
I agree that they should vote conservative, but like American Jews, they won’t.
They work hard, have huge families, pay little in taxes, and collect a ton in government benefits. They will also support an unlimited number of their fellow border jumpers.
They will vote for Santa!
I’m in and couldn’t agree more.
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