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179commentsAuthor calls for South to secede and form country called 'Reagan'
AL.com ^ | 10/23/14 | LeadaGore

Posted on 10/24/2014 6:34:03 PM PDT by Oliviaforever

A former aide to President Ronald Reagan wants a handful of Southern states to secede from the union and form a new country named for the late GOP hero.

It may come to a shock to some Alabamians, however, that Douglas MacKinnon's vision of the country known as "Reagan" would initially only include South Carolina, Florida and Georgia. Those three states were chosen, MacKinnon told talk show host Janet Mefferd, due to their population size and natural resources, such as access to the Atlantic Ocean and Gulf of Mexico.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: csa; cwii; neoconfederates; reagan; reagancountry; secession
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To: gorush
Split the country into four quadrants

Better idea - We keep the United States of America intact, governed by the original Constitution as written by our founding fathers, but form a Progressive (Socialist) States of America. The states in the PSSA would include the former cities of New York City, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, Philadelphia, and a few others but only include current city limit borders. They could keep Washington DC, and ALL (both parties) politicians, as their capital and leaders. We in the USA would create a capital at Dallas. The Statue of Liberty an the Liberty Bell would be relocated to the new Capital. Now that's a succession!!!

41 posted on 10/24/2014 7:23:22 PM PDT by eeriegeno (<p>)
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To: PROCON

You and me both.


42 posted on 10/24/2014 7:26:24 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: eeriegeno

Good luck with that. The liberals have been winning for over four decades. Cloward/Priven is now a conservatives best hope. It ain’t happening at the polls.


43 posted on 10/24/2014 7:26:53 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Publius
Sometimes it’s helpful to read the whole thing.

Yeah, and if you made Cliff Notes for it, we on the short attention span side of humanity could comment too :-)

44 posted on 10/24/2014 7:29:55 PM PDT by PROCON (Ask Yourself This..Are You More Likely to be Infected or Beheaded Today Than You Were 6 Years Ago?)
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To: Publius

Okay, if you insist. It will take the place of the latest ebola case with my morning coffee. I’m up to the part about Jackson, and so far, each part could be its own essay. I hope this was something you did in an academic setting, because it’s an excellent overview. You had me with the bit I quoted earlier about the Progressives. I look forward to the rest.


45 posted on 10/24/2014 7:30:50 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: cdcdawg

It began life as a 45 minute lecture to a Tea Party group in coastal Georgia in 2011. I was mobbed at the end of the lecture.


46 posted on 10/24/2014 7:32:06 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius

Hahaha! Mobbed in a good way, I hope. It’s usually too warm and muggy in coastal Georgia to do much mobbing, so it had to be good! That’s great, and I’m glad you took the time and care to do it. I honestly believe that people are starved for substance. I’m guessing you were taken aback at the reception you got.


47 posted on 10/24/2014 7:47:22 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: cdcdawg
The bowling alley in Brunswick was air conditioned to the point where it was refrigerated. I didn't expect so many questions, particularly about the 17th Amendment and the "One Man/One Vote" decision.

The mobbing came at the end when I gave out printed handouts. I didn't expect so much enthusiasm, but I think much of it came from linking the Tea Party to the original concept of Federalism.

48 posted on 10/24/2014 7:51:06 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yeah, but the problem is that all the takers and fools need the people who can make stuff and aren’t morons to support them and enable their delusions (while simultaneously being the butt of them). Some of them consciously or unconsciously realize this, and the ones who don’t, soon after partitioning, would. (They think of it as “the more fortunate” “doing their fair share” and “helping the less fortunate”)


49 posted on 10/24/2014 8:03:47 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Oliviaforever

Cool. I won’t even have to move.


50 posted on 10/24/2014 8:05:22 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Publius

That sounds like a pretty amazing event. The 16th, 17th, and 18th ... they were on quite the roll, weren’t they? I know it’s popular to blame the 16th for so many woes, but without the 17th, it wouldn’t matter nearly as much. The 17th completely changed the structure of our government, and for the worse. It was likely the final nail in the coffin, because the Senate was the barrier that the New Deal Supreme Court Justices had to get through, not to mention the Senate’s primary role in the New Deal.

Have a good evening, and I very much look forward to finishing your essay in the morning.


51 posted on 10/24/2014 8:22:53 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: Dilbert San Diego

........the concept of “irreconcilable differences” I agree with. And, I think geography is the only way to cure it. Take Massachusetts as just one example. That electorate and the Texas electorate are NEVER going to reconcile. Do we want that constant fighting for kids and grandchildren?

Same with California!

As Thomas Paine said......”if there is going to be trouble let it be now so that my children can live in peace”.


52 posted on 10/24/2014 8:22:59 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Oliviaforever

ummmm I hate to disappoint the ambitious author but that was already tried once before


53 posted on 10/24/2014 8:25:29 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He needs to add Texas, at the least.

Word...

54 posted on 10/24/2014 8:39:09 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: gorush
Liberal Americans get the NE and SW. Wha’d’ya think?

It's a crap idea, as it would put TEXAS in the Liberal States of Utopia.

Ain't a chance in hell we Texans would ever go for that.

55 posted on 10/24/2014 8:41:58 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: stevio
Really. After his first amnesty he [Reagan] basically gave California back to Mexico.

No, he didn't.

Ted Kennedy and the Democrats stabbed Reagan in the back by not living up to their end of the deal and closing the southern border.

Get your history straight.

56 posted on 10/24/2014 8:44:26 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: doc1019
Find out how many other states, north, south, east and west that want go get in on this. Could be a bloodless revolution.

Absolutely.

I've said many times, that if the red states banded together and seceded from the union, within ten years, the blue states would come begging on bended knee to rejoin us.

Any reunification would then be on OUR terms.

57 posted on 10/24/2014 8:46:25 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

AMEN!!


58 posted on 10/24/2014 8:47:11 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: PROCON
OK, what should the new "state" be called if not Reagan?

The Sovereign States of America.

59 posted on 10/24/2014 8:47:43 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Nifster
I hate to disappoint the ambitious author but that was already tried once before

I knew someone was going to come to this thread with that well worn (and erroneous) conclusion. Happens on every secession thread.

Look - this isn't 1861. Americans are not going to commit mass genocide against their own countrymen over the purely political question of secession.

It's a fear rooted in failure to accurately gauge the tenor of our times.

60 posted on 10/24/2014 8:56:24 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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