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The Establishment Almost Had Me
freedomoutpost.com ^ | 10/24/14

Posted on 10/24/2014 3:14:51 PM PDT by cotton1706

Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter almost had me convinced the other night. They almost had me. I think even Mark Levin hinted at it.

Elect Republicans, any republican, to stop Obama's agenda and get rid of Harry Reid.

Ann Coulter was so animated over it that I thought she was going to melt down. She was visibly and mockingly furious with anyone stupid enough not to vote for those like Mitch McConnell, or her love, as she describes him, Scott Brown. All the republicans she is pushing are Chamber of Commerce, big government hacks.

Anyway, this seems to be the refrain from the right, not just from the establishment, but also from conservatives. We must halt the Obama surge and throw out Harry Reid, so let's hold our collective noses once again and pull the lever.

And then what? And then no one has an answer because there is no answer, and they will not allow that question to be asked.

So, I guess I'll ask it again. And then what? Republicans take control of the House and Senate and then what?

Let me also answer that. Nothing gets done. At least nothing we want. Nothing gets slowed down or stalled. Nothing gets repealed. And why? Well, they already have a built in excuse for that. Now they need the presidency in 2016 to really get things done.

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1 posted on 10/24/2014 3:14:51 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706
So, I guess I'll ask it again. And then what? Republicans take control of the House and Senate and then what?

And then anyone who has eyes to see with can tell you what happens next:

The Republicans have made it very clear that they are only too happy to pass the Obama agenda if they win the Senate. So that will just give the Obama administration BI-PARTISAN COVER for the next two years leading up to the 2016 presidential elections.

Moreover, a Republican Senate victory will prove to the big goverment loving RINOcrats that they don't need the conservative base, on whom they have declared outright WAR, so you can forget about them becoming more conservative anytime soon -- not that we have any more time to wait.

You think it's crazy to say that Republicans intend to pass the Democrat agenda? Consider that:

The Republican leadership is lowering expectations about what they'll do if they take the Senate in 2014.

John McCain is already promising to restore the filibuster and promising to expedite approval of Obama's nominees “I will work very hard to go back to 60 votes,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who boldly predicts a Republican Senate would process Obama’s nominees “more rapidly than [Democrats] do today.”

And as for the House: John Boehner: ‘Very Few’ Republicans Will Oppose Me

Oh, and best of all, now Republicans are promising that a Senate takeover will increase the odds of passing immigration reform. Republicans: Immigration reform is more likely to happen if we take the Senate

Well at least the Republicans will repeal Obamacare. Oh wait, they won't.

The only SLIM chance we have to save our country at this point is to demonstrate beyond a doubt that the GOPs "moderate" agenda is doomed to fail at the polls.

Only then will we have a chance of having a true conservative Presidential nominee in 2016, and the utter collapse of Democrat credibility after two more years of their control of the Senate.

It is terrible to consider two more years of Democrat Senate Control, but no less terrible to consider the result of GOPe control.

2 posted on 10/24/2014 3:18:00 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: cotton1706
I see you're on a "dont vote" or "third party" tirade today. From the article:

And then what? And then no one has an answer because there is no answer, and they will not allow that question to be asked.

That's the wrong question. The real question is "Reid and Obama get to crow arrogantly on election night...AND THEN WHAT??????" = End of the nation.

3 posted on 10/24/2014 3:19:32 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: cotton1706
During Bush's first term, Republicans controlled both houses of Congress and the White House.

And, as the author points out, nothing got done. At least nothing we wanted to get done.

The only 'us vs. them' that really counts is the electorate vs. the elected.

4 posted on 10/24/2014 3:20:32 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: cotton1706

This is a classic “grass is greener across the road” argument. Don’t vote the opposition GOP because they are not PERFECT means that Harry Reid continues to be in charge of the US Senate. How the ‘H’ does that benefit us? This is the argument of a Democrat enabler!


5 posted on 10/24/2014 3:20:48 PM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: cotton1706

FEDERAL JUDICARY, unless you like lifetime appointed YOUNG lefty judges (or have given up hope on America)!


6 posted on 10/24/2014 3:21:07 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I see you're on a "dont vote" or "third party" tirade today.

All the ills facing this country have come at the hands of Republicans and Democrats.

7 posted on 10/24/2014 3:22:18 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“I see you’re on a “dont vote” or “third party” tirade today.”

Calm down. I’ve posted three articles today, only one of which in that vein, because I found it interesting. Hardly a tirade.


8 posted on 10/24/2014 3:22:47 PM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: cotton1706

Dead Enders and absolutists are generally the biggest contbibutors to a lost cause. The world is not theirs, but they think it is or it should be.


9 posted on 10/24/2014 3:24:15 PM PDT by yetidog
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To: cotton1706

It happens every 2 years before the national elections.

They promise that voting for the same will produce a different result. It doesn’t.

==

Bachmann and the Tea Party had a change to make history in January 2013. They had Boehner on the ropes and had enough votes to end his speakership.

But, Bachmann and a couple of others chickened out and cast their votes for the incumbent speaker.

To show his appreciation, Boehner took Bachmann’s chairmanship away from her.

==


10 posted on 10/24/2014 3:24:15 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: SES1066
Don’t vote the opposition GOP because they are not PERFECT...

What good things did the GOP do for the country when they controlled both houses of Congress and the White House during Bush's first term?

That's why I don't vote GOP or Democrap.

11 posted on 10/24/2014 3:24:52 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: cotton1706

Nothing will happen. The GOPe are for big government as much as the liberals. Susan Collings of Maine gave up the game in an interview saying “no, we won’t repeal Obamacare. We’ll work to make it better”.

Mitch McConnell of KY, when asked about what to do about Ebola, said first, “give the CDC whatever they want. We just sent the president a bill to give them $88 million now and they can get whatever they need.” This after reports of how the CDC illegally wastes and misappropirates earmarked money in their budget. When called on it they claimed they “didn’t have the records as to where the money went”. That’s criminal. GOP response? Snooooze.

What did they do with the IRS scandal? NOTHING! They wrote mean letters. They held dozens of committee meetings to no avail. This was ripe since the people hate the IRS and yet they didn’t do anything to anyone even after their lies of “my harddrive crashed”. Boehner didn’t want to have real hearings with teeth because he and the GOPe WANTED to squash Tea Party activist along with the Dems.

Now, cure Ann Archy and the other FR “We must take the Senate no matter what” crowd to tell us how the world will come to and end if we don’t.

I’m tempted to post a long list of predictions of what will NOT happen if the GOP does take the Senate.


12 posted on 10/24/2014 3:25:49 PM PDT by Fledermaus (The GOPe has to EARN my support and not blame me for their loss.)
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To: cotton1706

I am not establishment by any stgretch of the imagination, but I will vote all Republican. Establishment or not, we must stick together and work toward a veto proof senate. This country is in trouble, and if we don’t go all Republican, we will be adding to the downfall of America. This is a big deal - vote Republican!!!


13 posted on 10/24/2014 3:27:11 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: JSDude1
FEDERAL JUDICARY, unless you like lifetime appointed YOUNG lefty judges (or have given up hope on America)!

As I recall, Bush nominated a supposedly conservative Judge for the USSC and his hand-selected nominee for CJ cast the deciding vote in favor of Obamacare.

14 posted on 10/24/2014 3:27:14 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Maceman
John McCain is already promising to restore the filibuster

McConnell has committed to restoring it also.

They won't need to. Reid and the Dems will do it on their way out during the lame duck session, if they lost the majority in the election. They would not dare leave that new rule in effect for the Pubbies to use, if a Republican does happen to win in 2016.


15 posted on 10/24/2014 3:27:54 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

by not voting Republican you are promoting everything Obama.


16 posted on 10/24/2014 3:29:10 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Maceman

I totally disagree with you. The House has passed so many Bills that would tie Obama’s hands and cut spending plus much more to halt Obama only to have Harry Reid refuse to bring any up for a vote. You won’t influence me, and; I do not know anyone with your view. Frankly there will always be some of one party I will not like and some of those I like that others will not, but; they beat having a DEM vote yes automatically for the Obama agenda.


17 posted on 10/24/2014 3:29:25 PM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: SES1066

Agree 100%. Obama won in 2012 by 73,000 votes.


18 posted on 10/24/2014 3:30:45 PM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: JSDude1; cotton1706
FEDERAL JUDICARY, unless you like lifetime appointed YOUNG lefty judges (or have given up hope on America)!

Two issues:

1. Obamacare
2. Gay Marriage

You were saying????
19 posted on 10/24/2014 3:31:04 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: elpadre

voting for the R’s who keep stabbing us in the back is not helpful


20 posted on 10/24/2014 3:31:35 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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