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Turkey 'bombs Kurdish rebels' as tensions rise over Isil advance
The Telegraph ^ | 14 Oct 2014

Posted on 10/14/2014 5:23:37 AM PDT by McGruff

Turkish jets bombed targets in the southeast of Turkey where members of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) are based, the first strikes on the outlawed group since a 2013 ceasefire, a security source said.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: isil; isis; kurds; nato; pkk; turkey
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Odd, I thought ISIS, ISIL or whoever were the enemy.
1 posted on 10/14/2014 5:23:37 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff
The enemy is so imbedded with the population, there is just no possibility of cleaning it up.

I'd put a bundle in my pocket and do it the Mexican Way....bribery!!

2 posted on 10/14/2014 5:25:33 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: McGruff

The Turks want ISiS/ISIL to win.

They used to rule the Caliphate, and have dreams of doing so again.

We need to take a hard look at our supposed ally.


3 posted on 10/14/2014 5:27:26 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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the Turks want ISIS/ISIL to win

Isn't it more like the Turks want ISIS to defeat the Kurds and to defeat Assad, and then they want NATO to come to Turkey's defense when ISIS turns against them?

4 posted on 10/14/2014 5:31:45 AM PDT by grania
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No, the Turks want to restart the Caliphate.

Once you get outside of the major cities (Ankara and Istanbul) they are very supportive of ISIS.


5 posted on 10/14/2014 5:37:14 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: McGruff

The PKK are a recognized terrorist group

http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm


6 posted on 10/14/2014 5:40:01 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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Can’t believe we aren’t seeing big explosions in turkey and russia from friends and relatives they’ve killed.
Can’t believe no one has nuked iran, yet.


7 posted on 10/14/2014 5:46:18 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (The F.B.I. Is a dept. of holders Justice Dept. (Nuff said))
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"The PKK are a recognized terrorist group"

And the way that Turkey has turned a blind eye while Kurdish fighters in Northern Syria have died at ISIS hands, it's one I'm tempted to support their cause. Truly, if history has shown us anything, it's that the Kurds of northern Iraq, northern Syria and southern Turkey deserve to have their own nation as pogroms by these countries have threatened to wipe them out.

This is why (at least from what I've read), the provincial Kurd government in northern Iraq supports Israel because they feel a kindship with them and understand them as they have been through the same type of discriminations and pogroms.
8 posted on 10/14/2014 5:47:13 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: redgolum

Hey, they’re our good NATO buddies.


9 posted on 10/14/2014 5:50:23 AM PDT by Bettyprob
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To: redgolum

Which goes to prove that the Turks in the country side have not changed since I was there in the late 60s - who had not changed since the Ottoman Empire/Caliphate - who had not changed since the 700 hundreds AD.


10 posted on 10/14/2014 5:55:03 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: nuconvert

Yep, they are on the list.

BUT ISIS (ISIL) ARE NOT ON THE LIST.

Read between the lines. Treachery with no limit.

Obozo is in on deal with Saudis and Turks.


11 posted on 10/14/2014 5:58:33 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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Who are the terrorist group?

ISIS used chemical weapons on Kurds: report

12 posted on 10/14/2014 5:59:36 AM PDT by McGruff (we're leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq - Barack Obama)
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13 posted on 10/14/2014 5:59:55 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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They (Turkey) used to rule the Caliphate

Not entirely accurate. The Caliphate was long gone by the time of the Ottomans. Turkish people actually come from the Far east and ruled with Mongols much of ASIA and middle east. Mongolia rule practiced religious tolerance. This survived the early Ottoman empire that started in Constantinople. It wasn't until the rulers figured out it was easier to control population with Islam (meaning submission not peace) did the Ottomans implemented Islam on the empire.

14 posted on 10/14/2014 6:00:54 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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The idiot liberals, who still think PKK is a terrorist group, and Turkey per NATO isn't (after letting I.S. Islamists use Turkey as the basis to enter Iraq since June this year at least) have to have their head examined, and move away from surreptitiously supporting Obama.

PKK helped YPG (Kurdish in Syria). YPG is an affiliate of PKK (another Kurdish grp). They both helped Peshmerga Kurds in Iraq rescuing Yezidis and fighting I.S. (ISIS). A fact that was hardly publicized.

It really depends on who is "officially" considered a terrorist. PKK and YPG are not terrorists, and certainly PKK, Before I.S. suddenly appeared on the scene, was actively attempting to make peace with Turkey after being persecuted, as a Kurdish group, by Turkey for many years.

15 posted on 10/14/2014 6:01:45 AM PDT by odds
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It’s clear that the Turks are following the same strategy that Stalin employed during the Warsaw uprising (stand back, block any help to the Poles and let the Nazis destroy the Polish fighters). That was evil back then and it is evil now.

Islamist Turkey is NOT our friend and should no longer be a member of NATO and thus privy to NATO’s military secrets. Turkey is ACTIVELY PREVENTING KURDISH REINFORCEMENTS from being able to help the Kurds under siege in northern Syria.


16 posted on 10/14/2014 6:46:07 AM PDT by House Atreides (ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FOR CHILDERS 2014 .... Don't reward bad GOPe behavior.)
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To: odds

Just what have the Turks done since 911 to justify them remaining in NATO?

They support Ham@ss and never let NATO use their air bases in Turkey. Their leader ERDO the Turdo is a radical Muzzie.


17 posted on 10/14/2014 6:48:22 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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My thoughts, have said it before a few times on FR, it’s time to re-think NATO and its aim/objective/purpose and members.


18 posted on 10/14/2014 6:50:39 AM PDT by odds
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To: grania

Yeah. Something like that. Erdogan is quivering at the prospect of regaining the Caliphate for Istanbul without having to do the initial labor to make it happen. ISIS is doing just fine. The Turks are sure they can mop up ISIS and take control themselves with or without NATO and probably get American and Euro approval for their actions in smashing the dreaded ISIS. There might even be a bonus if the USA secretly manages to funnel enough arms and equipment to the ISIls to knock out Israel as well.


19 posted on 10/14/2014 7:22:44 AM PDT by arthurus
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Forget the Turks, support the Kurds. The Turks are becoming more radically Muslim while the Kurds are becoming less. Turkey is also not a very reliable ally in NATO like they used to be.


20 posted on 10/14/2014 7:53:02 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededication to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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