Posted on 10/11/2014 10:30:38 AM PDT by grundle
Today in predictable news:
The teenage girls who abandoned their families in Austria to become jihadis for ISIS feel they’ve made a terrible mistake by joining the barbaric lifestyle and they want to come home.
Samra Kesinovic, 17, and Sabina Selimovic, 15, are believed to be married, pregnant and living in the Islamic State-controlled city of Raqqa in northern Syria, Central European News reports.
Evidently, the move didn’t work out as the pair had hoped:
The change of heart is a much different tune than the note they left behind for their parents when they fled back in April, which read: “Don’t look for us. We will serve Allah — and we will die for him.”
Kesinovic and Selimovic grew up in Vienna, where they became accustomed to talking to whomever they wanted, saying whatever they pleased and wearing whatever clothes they liked. They did not have to live a life being controlled by people telling them what they can and cannot do.
I can’t quite blame the girls here. If they were 30, this would be a different story: In that case, they should be expected to deal with the consequences of their actions. But they’re not. They’re teenagers — too young to drink, to buy cigarettes, to own property, to join the military, and to vote. We have an age of majority for a good reason.
As I have noted before, totalitarianism is sadly attractive to the bored and the disaffected, and, as anybody who has either been a teenager or spent time around one knows, there are few people more bored and disaffected than they. At its root, this story is merely an extremely dramatic version of the age-old running-away-from-home-to-be-with-my-older-boyfriend tale. Except, that is, that the boyfriend doesn’t just have a motorcycle and an attitude, he has a rocket launcher and a death wish.
Sadly, it seems possible that the girls will not be able to return. Per the New York Post:
“The main problem is about people coming back to Austria,” said Austrian Interior Ministry spokesman Karl-Heinz Grundboeck. “Once they leave, it is almost impossible.”
This is tricky, certainly. Still, I was a little irritated by the implication in a preceding line:
Now Austrian media are reporting that Kesinovic and Selimovic have said enough is enough and want to return to their families, according to CEN.
They have contacted their loved ones and told them they are sick of living with the Islamic State jihadis, but they also said they don’t feel they can flee from their unwanted new life because too many people now associate them with ISIS.
Austria has its problems. But the challenge the girls face is not so much that their fellow countrymen will judge them harshly if they return as that they have both thrown in their lots with a cabal of psychotic killers who would happily execute them in broad daylight if they so much as inquired as to how they could get out of Raqqah. I daresay that, if they were to get back to Vienna, they’d get some odd looks on the street. Fair enough. But, however judgmental their fellow countrymen might be, they would be unlikely to execute them for apostasy. Really, anybody who is laboring under the impression that the biggest potential drawback to shacking up with ISIS is that they might lose their golf club membership if it doesn’t work out doesn’t grasp who they are dealing with here. Which, of course, is precisely how the pair got themselves into this situation in the first instance.
People, especially women, who live in relatively free countries with a Christian morals system foolishly believe that this is the natural order of things. Leaving the West, they soon find out that totalitarianism, tribalism, and thuggery is the natural order of things. Surprise! Women fare very poorly in this system because they are not as physically strong as men.
I hope these women enjoy their Islamic paradise. They should never be allowed back into the Western Christian world.
Mr. Cooke, you are an idiot. There is nothing “sad” about not being able to return. The only things sad about this are that the parents effectively knew this was what was to happen when dropping the girls off at the train station, and that the girls chose to attend the local radical mosque for many months prior to their leave.
The girls AND the parents ought to be imprisoned or bombed to death (for the girls in the gang-rape camps) for enabling terrorism.
I can’t work up too much sympathy. The liked the idea of going to the Middle East to help murder children, blow up churches, and cut off people’s heads.
They just can’t stand it when a bit of the pain comes their way. It’s OK to do it to others, but not to them.
I wish every Socialist in America was made to live like this for just a few years...
With a little twist, ‘if you like your goat, you can keep your goat...”
You nailed it, no pun intended.
Good breading stock those two.. They will help hatch 8 to 10 future jihadists or more apiece before they get passed off to the old goat shagger in a cave.. What more could they ask for than a view of the 7th century up close and personal
let me be clear..
I HOPE THEY AND THEIR FAMILIES SUFFER FOR ETERNITY
Maybe they should accept the idea their purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others.
You got that right.
To me the big problem with us Americans dealing with Islam, is that America is primarily a Judeo Christian country and cannot comprehend that Islam is a radically different religion with a totally different God.
Americans are prone to believe we worship the same God one way or another , and Islam is religion of peace. That's not the case.
Believe that at our own peril and the peril of the rest of us Infidels. -Tom
Stupid is as stupid does.
Surely, parent’s are so dumb as to let kids have their passports. Teens can’t keep up with their shoes much less important legal documents. The only other explaination would be the parents made a trip to the security deposit box or home safe and handed them their passports with a pat on the head as they sent them on their way to serve Allah.
Nobody actually speaks “Austrian”. The language of Austria (Oesterreich, Eastern Realm) is actually a rather accented and stilted form of German, full of odd constructs and very formal greetings.
The former conglomerate empire of Austria-Hungary was actually a polyglot of literally dozens of languages, and Vienna was a melting-pot on the order of Paris. What was once part of Yugoslavia was carved out of the break-up of that empire after the members of the Habsburg family were deposed as royalty.
Judging from the family name, these girls were from perhaps Serbia, or possibly Bosnia, and at least knew about the Muslim culture of Kosovo, over which there had been a great deal of strife for centuries. That they chose to be gun molls running with Islamic outlaws, well, we have examples of young girls running off with motorcycle gangs in this country, as well.
Youthful rebellion is so, well, messy.
LOL!
Oh well.
Tired of being passed around to horny fighters in multiple “temporary marriages”, no doubt.
It is their RIGHT to put the babies on Austrian welfare until they are old enough for jihad. /s
You sometimes just cannot fix stupid.
Like, can't yu talk to anyone yu want, and uh, say what yu want, and um, wear whatever in mooselim countries? They said we could.
Youth is wasted on the young and stupid.
YOU call it a religion. I call it an ideology. Big difference.
You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. —The Eagles
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