Patient quarantined in Kansas City

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[jodster36]

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - KCTV5 reports an apartment building in Kansas City, MO. is being sealed off Saturday night, and a source close to KCTV5 says it's because a person who lives there is sick with something contagious. Police at the apartment building told KCTV5 that all or part of the medical facility the person was taken to is now quarantined as well. The person was taken to Rockhill Research Hospital. No one at the hospital will confirm what the person has at this time. We'll continue to follow this developing story, and bring you updates as we get them.

[LSAggie]

There’s nothing on the KCTV5 website of the kind, and you link to a different website and claim it’s KCTV5.

There may not be anything on their website but I was watching their news broadcast at 10:00 p.m. and saw it reported under "Breaking News".

[redgolum]

I doubt that. My children’s daycare had an outbreak of it weeks before it was national news in July. No lockdown. One little boy was hospitalized, but he is ok now. That virus isn’t new, which is why I’m wondering what happened.

The source was a legal immigrant family who went back home to South America for vacation.

[jodster36]

Thank you. :)

[jodster36]

The link source should read KWCH. So I made a mistake. Sue me. I’m glad you’re perfect.

[wrench]

No one really “recovers” from ebola, they survive it if lucky. Their immune system is handicapped for life. They become high risk for every bug going around.

That this guy is developing secondary infections is to be expected, very similar to people who die from the flu. It isn’t the flu that gets them, but a secondary infection that takes over.

[Califreak]

But then again maybe it’s just my new anti-anxiety drug kicking in.

Still going to keep up with it though.

Never hurts to learn as much as you can.

[butterdezillion]

So many new, non-native diseases to choose between...

I wonder why we’re seeing so many now, as if our previous ways to control infectious diseases suddenly stopped working...

This stuff cuts really close to home. The past 9 months have been a living hell for my family; my 14-year-old daughter has been through 3 rounds of flagyl and a round of vancomicin and can’t get rid of her c-dif infection. Nobody else in the family has it, but it’s been a nightmare dealing with her symptoms and with the questions of whether she will ever get rid of this. There is a 1-2-month wait time to see specialists, which led to a colonoscopy/endoscopy while she still had the c-dif but we didn’t know it. She can’t see Infectious Diseases until the end of this month but it doesn’t sound like they’re interested in doing anything to help her. No doctor has told us what our options are. She went 2 months before even being initially tested for c-dif because the gal at the clinic here in town said they couldn’t test anything unless the feces was totally liquid. Now that would be no problem because it’s always liquid but at the beginning it wasn’t as bad. She was finally tested because I said they were going to test whether they thought they could or not.

She was also diagnosed with scoliosis (so far fairly mild, thank God) this year and has had a lot of pain from that which led us through an ultrasound of her gallbladder, test for gluten tolerance, a couple months of physical therapy for a popping hip, and tests for arthritis, lupus, MS, etc

I was up most of the night discussing with my nurse sister whether she should go to the ER because of an episode she had yesterday where she nearly passed out and sweated profusely while having diarrhea and nausea. She’s doing better now though her skin is clammy, and we’re staying home from church so I can watch her. She’s still sleeping so she’s OK but as soon as she sits up to drink some Gatorade she’ll be running to the bathroom.

Just looking on the web, it seems like maybe our options will be to try the final last-ditch antibiotic (I don’t know why we’re not doing that already), remove her colon, or try to transplant healthy flora from a donor. For the past month she’s been taking the maximum amount of probiotics that she’s allowed. She would really like to know how many yearly cases of antibiotic-resistant c-dif there are and how many of the 14,000 yearly deaths from c-dif are because of antibiotic-resistant strains, because she’d like to know what the prognosis is. She’s losing hope.

Anybody who says I don’t have a vested interest in the disease-spreading policies of this foreign enemy combatant in our White House is crazy. EVERY ONE OF US has a vested interest, because any one of us could lose our lives or our children because of these policies. Yet the courts would say that as long as we’re all screwed, none of us has “particularized injury”. We’re not losing enough; not enough is at stake. That reasoning is crazy and it WILL be the death of this once-great nation.

[UCANSEE2]

NAFTA SUPERHIGHWAY

It's merely a COINCIDENCE that disease outbreaks occur along the major hubs of the Interstate Highway System. Follow the Yellow Brick Road

Just a coincidence...

Kansas City is one of the main hubs of the entire US. It is the crossroads of the Nation. Literally. Immigrants from South of the Border head non-stop to KC and from there you have I-35 N/S and I-70 E/W.

We've got EVD-68 already, and were one of the first reported incidents. Then it spread to Kansas, and Iowa and then Colorado and Oklahoma and... well, it's pretty clear I think.

[butterdezillion]

Wow. That is QUITE clear.

[Boundless]

> ... 3 rounds of flagyl and a round of vancomicin
> and can’t get rid of her c-dif infection.

If you haven’t been told about FMT, look into it. People wouldn’t even consider it, except that it works.

Entirely apart from the problem of eliminating the c-dif, the antibiotics to date will have nuked all the beneficial gut bacteria (and this is a huge problem for modern societies generally). The importance of the gut biome is only beginning to be appreciated (and pretty much ignored by consensus medicine, as is the case for almost anything to do with nutrition - they get less than 20 classroom hours on the topic, reinforced by zero questions on their Boards).

If the child is not taking probiotics (active gut bacteria), it’s worth a try. But be sure the diet includes lots of prebiotics (aka resistant starches) to feed the new bugs. Ignore room-temp store shelf probiotics - they usually have CFU counts that were way too low at packaging, and mostly dead at the register. Get a PB from the pharmacy fridge (or mail order VSL#3, which is shipped with ice packs in insulation).

Also, avoid foods that feed c-diff and aggravate intestinal problems. Switch to a low net carb, low inflammatory, higher RS fiber diet: increase n3 fats, zero grains, zero added simple sugars, zero grain oils ... the new book “Wheat Belly Total Health” (Davis) seems to be the state of the art on how to eat (and is about vastly more than just the hazards of the novel grass seed sold to us as “wheat”).

[Mercat]

Research Medical Center is a place I would not want to go for emergency medical treatment. It’s where the cops take anyone in the city who can’t talk them into a private hospital. Our son and Mr. Mercat had to argue with them and Mr. Mercat finally just took him to St. Luke’s on the Plaza which is one of the best hospitals in the metro if not the best.

[Cold Heat]

oh my...

I am reading that it is infecting 300,000 a year..and the NAP1 strain is only getting more drug resistant.

It’s at epidemic proportions..

I actually was not aware of this until you told me your story..

[butterdezillion]

My daughter had an episode yesterday (while I was in a neighboring town shopping) which alarmed my (nurse) sister because she thought it might by hypovolemic shock. I looked up the symptoms of hypovolemic shock and it sounds a lot like what Tabitha described. But it didn’t make sense with my husband’s description that he thought there were just flecks of blood in the mucus. But Tabitha is feeling better and awake now and I had her describe the whole thing, and the toilet water was all red and the mucus was like chunks of meat. But she had had 2 red slushies earlier in the day and they thought the red was the food dye from that and not blood.

If it was actually blood it would explain the almost passing out, excessive sweating, fever, blue fingernails, and the feeling of impending death. Between blood loss and dehydration it could have been hypovolemic shock. What doesn’t make sense is that she got better instead of worse. She’s acting fine now though still having the liquid stools. We compared timelines and realized that we were both praying for her when she started feeling better. She had called me while I was at the craft store, crying because she was in pain. We’d hung up because she had to get to the toilet, and I cried and prayed through the rest of my shopping knowing my husband would be back soon to tend her. I called him a bit later and was told she had almost passed out and was white as a ghost but was sleeping peacefully at the time. So I cried and prayed some more.

I need to know when it’s time to go to the ER.

We had torrential rain last week. The window well of the egress window in the boys’ bedroom filled with water and the window opening itself wasn’t sealed adequately so almost the whole carpet in there was sopping wet. There had apparently been similar leakage before because when I went to try to dry out the carpet there was mold on the carpet. So I’ve been pulling that carpet up. I had a bad cold and a 24-hour flu bug that wiped me out for a couple days also so it’s been a very, very rough week all the way around. I don’t understand what happened yesterday, I’m scared for her and confused about what to do, and while I’m trying to figure out where we’re at and what we need to do I’m watching urgent stuff piling up that I need to do while also feeling like I need to keep very close watch over her.

[greeneyes]

I know that, but as I said, there are some who have been posting very authoritatively that it is not contagious-stating it is merely infectious. Sorry should have included the sarcasm tag.

At any rate thanks for that clear and concise explanation of both terms, maybe they’ll see it and stop ridiculing people who are concerned about contagion.

Have you heard anything else about the KC case? I haven’t been able to get anything from the local news or St. Louis news either.

[butterdezillion]

Thanks. Can you give some examples of resistant starches, n3 fats, and higher-RS-fiber diet?

I have diabetes and more and more it seems like the solution to everything is to just never eat. - now for my daughter too.

It’s looking possible that this resistant c-dif may have come from contaminated meat. I just learned today that c-dif is NOT a natural bacteria in the gut; it comes from somewhere else but is largely able to overgrow and take over everything when antibiotics wipe out the natural flora that normally keeps things in check. The antibiotic-resistant strain creates 20 times the normal toxins, which eat away the mucosal lining of the colon. Since she finished the vancomicin she’s had a LOT of mucus, and it sounds now like yesterday it may have been more than the mucosal lining involved. When she had the colonoscopy 2 months ago the colon walls looked fine, the dr said.

[Cold Heat]

Your are right of course that blood loss could have caused the symptoms you observed.

All I can advise is that you own some tools for checking vitals, such as blood pressure, temp and oxygen levels.

I have those for my wife and I...we are getting more prone to medical issues as we both age.

I really feel for what you are going through. I sense you might be exhausted... make sure you take good care of yourself as well...and keep her hydrated.

I wish there was something I could suggest for you, but I was just made aware of this issue..Your daughter is far too young to have this burden and I pray it resolves soon..

[greeneyes]

Could it be something else? Chemical/Radiation/Anthrax? I too hope it’s just an abundance of caution whatever it is.

[RegulatorCountry]

Contagious would be an incorrect description for any of those, they’re more environmental toxins that can possibly be airborne.

[Boundless]

> Can you give some examples of resistant starches, n3 fats, and higher-RS-fiber diet?

Answered on a more on-topic thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3211559/posts?q=1&;page=57#57

[greeneyes]

Contagious would be an incorrect description for any of those, they’re more environmental toxins that can possibly be airborne.
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Well, Duh! I didn’t say they were contagious. I was speculating on what in the world could have caused them to immediately take those actions regarding the Apartment and Hospital quarantine, other than a disease.

I simply threw out there some bad stuff as an example, hoping that someone else could come up with a more likely scenario that didn’t involve infectious or contagious diseases.