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It’s Time to Take the Islamic State Seriously (Excellent Analysis!)
Crisis Magazine ^ | September 23, 2014 | REV. JAMES V. SCHALL, S.J.

Posted on 09/23/2014 2:20:42 PM PDT by NYer

ISIL: The gravest threat in Iraq and Syria

Islam has no central or definitive body or figure authorized to define what exactly it is. Opinions about its essence and scope vary widely according to the political or philosophic background of its own interpreters. The current effort to establish an Islamic State, with a designated Caliph, again to take up the mission assigned to Islam, brings to our attention the question: “What is Islam?”

The issue of “terror” is a further aspect of this same understanding. Many outside Islam seek to separate “terror” and “Islam” as if they were, in their usage, independent or even opposed ideas. This latter view is almost impossible seriously to maintain in the light of Islamic history and the text of the Qur’an itself.

John Kerry, however, insists that what we see is “terrorism” with nothing to do with Islam. The Obama administration seems to have a rule never to identify Islam with “terrorism,” no matter what the evidence or what representatives of the Islamic State themselves say. The vice-president speaks of “Hell” in connection with actions of the Islamic State. Diane Feinstein speaks of “evil” behind the current slaughters in Iraq and Syria. The pope mentions “stopping aggression.” The English hate-laws prevent frank and honest discussion of what actually goes on in Islamic countries or communities in the West. Not even Winston Churchill’s critical view of Islam is permitted to be read in public.

Ecumenism and liberalism both, in their differing ways, because of their commitment to tolerance and free speech, make it difficult to deal with what is happening in Islamic states. Islam is not friendly to relativism or to subtle distinctions.

Is terror intrinsic to Islam?
What I want to propose here is an opinion. An opinion is a position that sees the plausibility but not certainty of a given proposition. But I think this opinion is well-grounded and makes more sense both of historic and of present Islam than most of the other views that are prevalent. I do not conceive this reflection as definitive. Nor do I document it in any formal sense, though it can be. It is a view that, paradoxically, has, I think, more respect for Islam than most of its current critics or advocates.

This comment is an apologia, as it were, for the Islamic State at least in the sense that it accepts its sincerity and religious purpose. It understands how, in its own terms, the philosophic background that enhances its view does, in its own terms, justify its actions, including the violent ones.

The Islamic State and the broader jihadist movements throughout the world that agree with it are, I think, correct in their basic understanding of Islam. Plenty of evidence is found, both in the long history of early Muslim military expansion and in its theoretical interpretation of the Qur’an itself, to conclude that the Islamic State and its sympathizers have it basically right. The purpose of Islam, with the often violent means it can and does use to accomplish it, is to extend its rule, in the name of Allah, to all the world. The world cannot be at “peace” until it is all Muslim. The “terror” we see does not primarily arise from modern totalitarian theories, nationalism, or from anywhere else but what is considered, on objective evidence, to be a faithful reading of a mission assigned by Allah to the Islamic world, which has been itself largely procrastinating about fulfilling its assigned mission.

To look elsewhere for an explanation is simply not to see what the Islamic State and its friends are telling us about why they act as they do. The tendency among pragmatic Western thinkers, locked into their own narrow views, is to exclude any such motivation as an excuse of raw power. This view shows the intellectual shortcomings of Western leaders and the narrowness of much Western thought.

Jihadism, as it were, is a religious movement before it is anything else. Allah does grant violence a significant place. It is over the truth of this position, or better the inability to disprove it, that the real controversy lies. A recent essay in the American Thinker calculated that over the years of its expansion, from its beginning in the seventh and eighth centuries, some 250 million people have been killed in wars and persecutions caused by Islam. Nothing else in the history of the world, including the totalitarianisms of the last century, has been so lethal.

If Islam is a religion of peace, what sort of peace does it bring?
Other understandings of Islam’s record, though not its mission, within Islam may be also plausible, but no more so than this jihadist interpretation. It may be possible for some to read Islam as a religion of “peace.” But its “peace,” in its own terms, means the peace of Allah within its boundaries. With the rest of the outside world, it is at war in order to accomplish a religious purpose, namely, to have all submitted to Allah in the passive way that the Qur’an specifies.

Islam can at times be defeated or stopped, as at Tours or Vienna, but it will always rise again as it is now bent on so doing. To picture the jihadists and leaders of the Islamic State as mere “terrorists” or thugs is to use Western political terms to blind ourselves to the religious dynamism of this movement. No wonder our leaders cannot or will not understand it. This purpose, when successful, is a terrible thing. But we are not seeing a group of gangsters, as many are wont to maintain. The roots of Islam are theological, rather bad theology, but still coherent within its own orbit and presuppositions.

Briefly put, Islam, in its founding, is intended to be, literally, the world religion. Nothing else has any standing in comparison. It is to bring the whole world to worship Allah according to the canons of the Qur’an. It is a belief, based on a supposed revelation to Mohammed, of which there is little evidence. Sufficient justification to expand this religion, once founded, to all the world by use of arms is found in the Qur’an and in its interpreters to explain the violent means used, often successfully, to establish, pacify, and rule tribes, states, territories, and empires.

In Muslim doctrine, everyone born into the world is a Muslim. No one has any right or reason not to be. Hence, everyone who is not a Muslim is to be converted or eliminated. This is also true of the literary, monumental, and other signs of civilizations or states that are not Muslim. They are destroyed as not authorized by the Qur’an.

It is the religious responsibility of Islam to carry out its assigned mission of subduing the world to Allah. When we try to explain this religion in economic, political, psychological, or other terms, we simply fail to see what is going on. From the outside, it is almost impossible to see how this system coheres within itself. But, granted its premises and the philosophy of voluntarism used to explain and defend it, it becomes much clearer that we are in fact dealing with a religion that claims to be true in insisting that it is carrying out the will of Allah, not its own.

If we are going to deal with it, we have to do so on those terms, on the validity of such a claim. The trouble with this approach, of course, is that truth, logos, is not recognized in a voluntarist setting. If Allah transcends the distinction of good and evil, if he can will today its opposite tomorrow, as the omnipotence of Allah is understood to mean in Islam, then there can be no real discussion that is not simply a temporary pragmatic stand-off, a balance of interest and power.

Whenever incidents of violence are witnessed in the Islamic world, or in other parts of the world caused by Islamic agents, we hear complaints that almost no Muslim voices rise to condemn this violence. When the original 9/11 happened, there was not condemnation coming from within Islam, but widespread celebration. Islam was seen as winning. But all Muslim scholars know that they cannot, on the basis of the Qur’an, condemn the use of violence to expand their religion. There is simply too much evidence that this usage is permitted. To deny it would be to undermine the integrity of the Qur’an.

Obviously, the enemies of the Islamic State and its jihadist allies are not only the “Crusaders” or the West. Some of Islam’s bloodiest wars were its invasion of Hindu India, where the tension remains marked. There are also Muslim efforts into China. The Philippines has a major problem as does Russia. But Islam wars with itself. The Sunni/Shiite struggles are legendary. It is important to note that one of the first things on the Islamic State’s agenda, if it is successful in surviving, is to unite all of Islam in its creedal unity.

The unfinished business from Tours and Vienna
All existing Islamic states are some sort of compromise between the true Islamic mission and forces, usually military forces that limit this world-wide unification. Almost all standing Muslim governments recognize the danger to themselves of a successful Caliphate. They all have some form of jihadist presence within their boundaries that seek to control it in the name of their very survival. There are or were Christian and other minorities within these states that are, to a greater or lesser extent, tolerated. But they are all, as non-Muslims, treated as second-class citizens. The Islamic movement renews that purist side of Islam that insists in eradicating or expelling non-Muslim presences in Muslim lands.

The Archbishop of Mosul, on seeing his people exiled and killed, forced to choose between conversion and death, empathized that his buildings were destroyed, the archives and all record of the long Christian presence in that area destroyed. He warned that this form of treatment is what the nations of the West could expect sooner or later. There are now significant Muslim enclaves in every part of America and Europe to be of great concern as centers of future uprisings within each city. There are now thousands of mosques in Europe and America, financed largely by oil money, that are parts of a closed enclave that excludes local law and enforces Muslim law.

Yet, we can ask: is this Islamic State anything more than a pipe-dream? No Islamic state has any serious possibility of defeating modern armies. But, ironically, they no longer think that modern armies will be necessary. They are convinced that widespread use of terrorism and other means of civil disorder can be successful. No one really has the will or the means to control the destructive forces that the Islamic State already has in place.

The Islamic State strategists think it is quite possible to take another step in the expansion of Islam, to take up again the assault on Europe left off at Tours and Vienna. Muslim armies have always been known for cruelty and craftiness. Men often shrank in fear before its threat, as they are intended to do. A Muslim theoretician once remarked that their aim was to make the streets of Western cities look like those battlefields we see in the cities of the Middle East. Again with the suicide bomber and believers in their use, for which they are said to be “martyrs,” this may be possible.

Finally, the case of the Islamic State and of the jihadists is not just a threat arising out of Islam’s mission to conquer the world for Allah. It is also a moral case, that the life of the West is atheist and decadent. It does not deserve its prosperity and position. The mission of mankind is the submission to Allah in all things. Once this submission is in place, the sphere of war will be over. No more beheading or car-bombings will be necessary or tolerated. No dissent within Islam will be possible or permitted. All will be at peace under the law of Islam. This is the religious purpose of the Islamic State. It is folly to think of it in any other terms.

But with great opposition both from the West and from within Islamic states to this vision, is there any possibility of its success? Pat Buchanan thought that a group of Seals one of these days would eliminate the new Caliph. Existing Muslin government officials know that their days are numbered if the Islamic State succeeds. But, at the same time, this vision does seem to be the real impetus of the Islamic peoples.

It is easy to write this movement off as fanatical and ruthless, which it is. To the outside world, it sounds horrific, but I suspect not to those who believe its truth and see the current revival of Islam with relief. The second or third class ranking of Islam in the modern world is over. But to the degree that we misjudge what is motivating the renewal of Islam, we will never understand why it exists as it does.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bootsontheground; caliphate; iraq; is; isil; isis; islam; islamicstate; kurdistan; syria; yazidi; yazidis
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To: NYer
This is a deep and incisive analysis of the situation with ISlam (and ISis, and ISil, and IS, etc.).

It seems so hopeless for the rest of the world to deal with this "religion" in any kind of truly lasting, successful way.

The only solution I see is for God (the real God) to pulverize Allah (the very idea of Allah), and for all the Muslims to be converted to Christianity.

(Pray without ceasing...)

21 posted on 09/23/2014 9:29:47 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in Thee." - St. Augustine)
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To: Lorianne
They are "joining forces" to save their own hides ... that's it.

Strong motivation, that, but only motivation while a threat is present and credible.

22 posted on 09/23/2014 10:05:36 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Lorianne
We have a big problem with the caliphate growing world wide .

Solution is to force all the middle east countries into being secular ruled countries.

This was the case for many years and imo started when a military man, Atta Turk, westernized Turkey. Then the Shaw of Iran did the same then Egypt and Lybia. Even Hussien made Iraq a safe place for non muslims.

This all started to fall apart when we (Carter) enabled the Ayatollah to oust the Shaw of Iran. It's been down hill ever since.

A 'NATO' style coalition will be needed to reverse what has been going on. We should partner up with Russia (yes I said Russia) , China, India who themselves are having bigger potential problems with the Islamists, to join in getting this done.

In a way, it's started already, with Assad holding on in Syria, and Asissi? in Egypt destroying the brotherhood.

We need Putin because he's been right on the ME while Obama has been wrong and a major part of the problem.

23 posted on 09/23/2014 10:14:30 PM PDT by duckln
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To: Lorianne
but still, why would we bother to save the Kuwaitis from Sadaam?

To maintain the free flow of oil at market prices. And thus, our way of life.

Even if it is only in hindsight, we must acknowledge now that was a stupid move.

Nonsense. We need acknowledge no such thing, particularly when no reasons apart from "Monday morning quarterbacking" can be given.

Indeed, such doctrinaire pontifications fairly demand a comprehensively outlined solution superior to the one employed by George Bush.

24 posted on 09/23/2014 11:06:51 PM PDT by papertyger (Those who don't fight evil hate those who do)
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To: Lorianne
I do not trust any such partnership. They are "joining forces" to save their own hides ... that's it. They will turn on us in due course. Do you really think the Muslims in these countries care about us?

So what? Do you expect BFFs? These are nation-states, not girlfriends.

And precisely "what" do you expect them to turn on us? Their economic might? Their breathtaking militaries? Their cultural hegemony?

Get real.

25 posted on 09/23/2014 11:17:23 PM PDT by papertyger (Those who don't fight evil hate those who do)
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To: Lorianne
The reasons given at the time were that the poor Kuwaiti’s were being overrun and slaughtered and we just had to go in and save them. (I remember the rhetoric back then)

Now you're just being deceitful. I don't know whose rhetoric you're remembering, but it sure wasn't what the rest of us remember.

26 posted on 09/23/2014 11:26:34 PM PDT by papertyger (Those who don't fight evil hate those who do)
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To: kalee

for later reading


27 posted on 09/23/2014 11:44:17 PM PDT by kalee
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Excellent article.

Actually, it’s a bit of both. Islam was essentially just another vehicle for extending and consolidating Mohammed’s reign of crime. I won’t call them military victories, because they weren’t military: Mohammed was just another member of a primitive, caravan-raiding Arab tribe, albeit a particularly violent and crazy one, who took advantage of the fact that after the fall of Rome, there no longer existed a great power that could support or protect the weak non-Arab kingdoms of the ME. They were trading or commercial societies, often very developed intellectually, generally pagan although sometimes with significant Christian or even Jewish populations, but they simply weren’t up to defending themselves against the ultimate caravan raider.

Mohammed and his goons would sweep in and destroy these places, and then take them over. The “religion” came to him then as a way of consolidating his power by creating a system that declared his rule essentially divine. People who accepted it then received “peace,” that is, SLM, the root word of Islam, because once they submitted to his rule, he stopped attacking them.

The ME at the time suffered not only from political weakness and fragmentation, but from religious fragmentation. What Mohammed did was have a “vision” where he took little fragments from each religion and put them together in a self-serving cult: that is, he took parts of Jewish law and OT prophecy; certain Christian figures, drawn mostly from heretical Arian or Donatist beliefs and apocalyptic concepts; and a lot of pagan fertility and moon-worship traditions, such as the worship of that peculiar female-genital shaped moon rock in the Kaaba. This was supposed to satisfy all of the different groups that he was subjugating and made him the ruler not only of their political lives but of every aspect of their lives.

This was even more the case because of its negative, voluntaristic aspect, which essentially prevents its adherents from developing any realistic theology, since God is not knowable and in any case may decide to be or do something entirely different in an instant. This strikes at the very basis of reason, and is why Islamic societies are so retrograde. The famous “Muslim achievements” are all things that came out of the societies they took over, which continued to limp along until Islam finally, usually after about 100 years or so, managed to snuff out the light of reason.

Because Mohammed had no direct male heir, there was nobody who could automatically follow him, and this is the source of the division between the two branches of Islam. However, their other beliefs are the same.

So we have to understand the origins of Islam to understand what it really is. The subsequent history of it thus is nothing but a quest to take over all of society (simply for purposes of the enrichment of its leaders, using the “religion” to ensure this), although it is marked by disputes between the two main sects of Islam. However, the “Caliph” is theoretically the point of union here and that is one of the reasons this current situation is so dangerous.


28 posted on 09/24/2014 3:37:17 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius; Pearls Before Swine
So we have to understand the origins of Islam to understand what it really is.

“There is also the superstition of the Ishmaelites which to this day prevails and keeps people in error, being a forerunner of the Antichrist…. From that time to the present a false prophet named Mohammed has appeared in their midst. This man, after having chanced upon the Old and New Testaments and likewise, it seems, having conversed with an Arian monk, devised his own heresy. Then, having insinuated himself into the good graces of the people by a show of seeming piety, he gave out that a certain book had been sent down to him from heaven. He had set down some ridiculous compositions in this book of his and he gave it to them as an object of veneration.”


St. John Damascene (d. 749), Syrian Arab Catholic monk and scholar. Quoted from his book On Heresies under the section On the Heresy of the Ishmaelites (in The Fathers of the Church. Vol. 37.


29 posted on 09/24/2014 4:41:00 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

A very accurate description from someone who was practically there to see it!

I think the thing to remember is that in a sense the political or conquest aspect came first, and the “religion” was then added on as a way to give Mohammed and the Arabs total control of the conquered people and to cement this by making the political state into a religion. That’s why it has killed over 250 million people so far in its ceaseless campaign for world domination.

Islamic society is actually the only truly theocratic society, that is, where the state and the religion are one and the same and the state is ruled by religious law. If Hitler had been smart, he would have founded a religion (actually, like Napoleon, he was trying to do so, but he didn’t get it going soon enough).


30 posted on 09/24/2014 6:13:28 AM PDT by livius
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To: NYer

BTTT. This is a seminal article. I thought about it a lot over the last day.

Recommended for general knowledge of the enemy, of which there is little that is useful. This one is good.

We have to first name, then understand, then destroy this enemy.


31 posted on 09/24/2014 6:36:14 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Clinton / Bush 2016?)
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To: Uncle Miltie
We have to first name, then understand, then destroy this enemy.

See my post #29, written by an eyewitness to the formation of Islam.

32 posted on 09/24/2014 6:42:25 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer; holdonnow
I wish it were possible to drop the terms "terror", "terrorism", and "terrorists" from our vocabulary in discussing the war we are in. I especially wish the Great One would drop "Islamonazi", for reasons I will elaborate on.

When the Japanese soldiers took St. Stephen's hospital in Hong Kong, they killed and mutilated the bodies of the doctors, bayoneted the patients, and gang-raped the nurses. They did the same at the Alexandra Hospital in Singapore, except they made the nurses clean up the blood and guts of the murdered patients before they gang-raped them.

Japan used the tactic of terror to great effect as they swept through China, Malaya, Burma, and Indonesia. Yet, it was unnecessary to coin a replacement term for "enemy soldiers". Similarly, as the Red Army butchered and raped their way across Eastern Germany, again using the tactic of terror to great effect, no one thought in necessary to say that the retreating German forces were "fighting terror". Our soldiers and marines were spared the need to inflict terror on Japanese civilians at bayonet point, mostly because we had two buckets of sunshine we could drop from 40 000 feet.

My point is that the ability and the willingness to inflict terror upon the enemy soldiers is intrinsic to military success, as so eloquently described in the following passage:

"we'll win it only by fighting and by showing the Germans that we've got more guts than they have; or ever will have. We're not going to just shoot the sons-of-bitches, we're going to rip out their living Goddamned guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks. We're going to murder those lousy Hun c***suckers by the bushel-f***ing-basket. War is a bloody, killing business. You've got to spill their blood, or they will spill yours. Rip them up the belly. Shoot them in the guts...."

We are in a war with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. They are using soldiers in an unusual, unconventional way. But soldiers they are. Thinking of them instead as "terrorists" is preventing us from making and executing a war plan to bring victory.

And, Mark, PLEASE stop the "Islamonazi" stuff. German National Socialism was an artefact of late modernity. It is no coincidence that the early "postmodernists" like Paul DeMan and Martin Heidegger, who inspired Derrida and Foucault were Nazis.

Islam, Islamic warriors, and Islamic terror have their roots in the seventh century. Other than alliances of convenience in the 1930s and early 1940s, Naziism and Islam have zero to do with each other. Each is sui generis, and Islam has been immeasurably more persistent, and more successful, than German National Socialism.

33 posted on 09/24/2014 6:45:53 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: NYer

bttt


34 posted on 09/24/2014 7:07:26 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: papertyger

That’s what we were being sold!

It’s the truth.

Also I remember after the ‘liberation’ of Kuwait and after 9/11 Kuwaitis celebrating in the streets!


35 posted on 09/24/2014 8:03:48 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: papertyger

People in these countries are not our friends militarily or otherwise. They were celebrating in the streets after 9/11.

It’s beyond stupid to be in an ‘alliance’ with them. Their leaders just want to save their own hides should ISIS overrun them. That’s all. There is no other reason they want to be in an ‘alliance with us

And if they have little to now military capability, what kind of alliance is it? What are they actually doing?


36 posted on 09/24/2014 8:07:03 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Smokin' Joe

A threat to THEM not us.

Why do we have to go in and help save their hides?


37 posted on 09/24/2014 8:29:55 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
I agree with you basically on Kuwait.

Upshot was that a few 'princes' stole an oil bonanza from Iraq.

They were protected by the free world, who benefited as de facto partners in the heist.

It has a lot to do with us defending the filthy rich ' Muslims in name only' as it has to do with picking favored dubious muslim groups.

Could be we are now bombing the wrong people. We should be concentrating on the MINO who control the banking systems in countries that are financing the Islamists world wide onslaught.

38 posted on 09/24/2014 9:15:34 AM PDT by duckln
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To: Lorianne
Right. Alliances in the region have always been fluid, and the loyalty consistently goes to the highest bidder, either in treasure, land, or intangibles.

I am of the opinion that no matter which faction prevails, we will eventually face it in the future. Find out who is running short and airdrop small arms ammo. The situation will sort itself out.

39 posted on 09/24/2014 9:33:24 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Lorianne
That’s what we were being sold! It’s the truth. Also I remember after the ‘liberation’ of Kuwait and after 9/11 Kuwaitis celebrating in the streets!

Source? It shouldn't be hard to document.

That was the Palestinians, not the Kuwaitis. The Kuwaitis were lining up to donate blood.

40 posted on 09/24/2014 6:02:40 PM PDT by papertyger (Those who don't fight evil hate those who do)
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