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School tells Missouri boy his 9/11 souvenir violates school weapons policy
Fox News | Sep 19, 2014

Posted on 09/22/2014 1:56:59 PM PDT by KeyLargo

Education School tells Missouri boy his 9/11 souvenir violates school weapons policy

A souvenir shell casing handed out by veterans at a 9/11 ceremony landed a seven-year-old Missouri boy in hot water when he took the keepsake to school.

Sherry Falke said her son, Zane, forgot he had the souvenir in his pocket when he showed up for class on Tuesday, Fox4KC.com reported. The boy was given the souvenir at a Sept. 11 memorial ceremony in Carrollton, Mo.

"He felt it in his pocket, and he took it out and was showing some of his friends at school," Falke told the station.

"The principal proceeded to reprimand him as though he were bringing live ammunition to school," she said. "I understand that's in the policy, in the handbook, that they can’t bring guns to school. I fully support that, but it's an empty blank casing."

Falke said her son's teacher seized the shell casing and took him to the principal’s office. She claims they Zane he could be suspended from school for 10 days, but instead gave him a silent lunch where he sat by himself and missed two recesses.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: banglist; boy; childabuse; education; guns; homeschool; military; missouri; school; teachers; veterans
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To: KeyLargo

Flog a teacher a day,
to keep ‘silly’ away.


61 posted on 09/22/2014 2:52:51 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: KeyLargo

“Off with his head!” (Oh, I meant the teacher!)


62 posted on 09/22/2014 2:53:08 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: RaveOn
"The school has no way of knowing..."

Then maybe the "school" ought to educate themselves...instead of going into some knee jerk convulsions.

If they did, then maybe they wouldn't have wet themselves over a blank that was already "fired".

And it's not "potentially dangerous"...unless it were to be thrown at someone...like the principal for being such a panty waisted idiot.

One other thing, my "kid" has plenty of expended cartridges from the many types of firearms he's shot for the first time. Shotgun, rifle, pistol, even a hat shot with a black powder rifle.

Oh, welcome to FR...

63 posted on 09/22/2014 2:53:56 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Charles Martel
"Not only is that piece of brass no longer live ammunition, it never was (strictly speaking). It was originally a blank cartridge with a crimped mouth - no projectile. See the crimping marks?"

Yes, thank you for explaining that to Freepers that do not understand the difference.

64 posted on 09/22/2014 2:56:29 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

My son was reprimanded in elementary school for bringing casings from my father in law’s burial. He didn’t attend, think he was like 10 or so, but he brought a couple casings to school. The principal called mom and gave him a stern warning — same bs.

This was our 10 years ago. I want my country back.


65 posted on 09/22/2014 3:01:47 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (Islam delenda est)
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To: chrisser

I believe it is common at a military funeral, and the spent casings are meant to signify that the deceased was buried with military honors...almost as ‘proof’...as if the casing were actually one of the rounds that went through a rifle that day. But since we use blanks stateside, we had to sneak in substitutes.


66 posted on 09/22/2014 3:02:55 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: lacrew

Bringing an American flag to school these days practically constitutes an act of terrorism! OTOH, a Mexican flag would be perfectly OK! /extreme sarcasm off


67 posted on 09/22/2014 3:03:38 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: antidisestablishment
Zane is just lucky that he did not wear his Cub Scout uniform to class or try to salute The Flag, neither of which today is PC and deemed offensive to other select students in Government schools. Zane would have been arrested and charged with a hate crime, I am sure.

" Zane forgot he left the shell casing in his pocket, a souvenir he received at the 9/11 ceremony from the VFW in Carrollton, given to him and his Cub Scout group."

68 posted on 09/22/2014 3:08:51 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: RaveOn
The school has no way of knowing where it came from, how it was emptied, or whether it’s been tampered with in some half-assed attempt at reloading. In other words, it’s still potentially dangerous to other students, and that is most definitely the school’s business and their responsibility.

Had someone stuck a new primer in their you would have a point. As this was a souvenire spent caseing I can't imagine that was the case. Without a primer what potential danger do you see?

69 posted on 09/22/2014 3:11:17 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: RWGinger

I believe it is common at a military funeral, and the spent casings are meant to signify that the deceased was buried with military honors...almost as ‘proof’...as if the casing were actually one of the rounds that went through a rifle that day. But since we use blanks stateside, we had to sneak in substitutes.

No we did not tell the widow or parent. This was peacetime, and I was stationed at Fort Riley. So, if anyone on active duty in the military who was originally from Kansas died...or any retiree/combat veteran in Kansas died, we would be assigned to the funeral. We would travel to some remote corner of Kansas, set up at the cemetery and rehearse a few times, and wait for the funeral procession to arrive. It would arrive, we would very formally do the pall bearer routine, flag folding, bugle call (I’m sad to say with a guy faking it while a hidden tape player played), and presentation of the flag - with a memorized script recited to the wife/parent. Then when the clergy finished the burial ceremony, we would get in formation and walk away to our van.

Very little contact/conversation with the family. Just in and out. I could tell that some of the locals were often confused as to where in the heck uniformed soldiers came from. It was an additional duty to us....almost a sh@t detail. Soldiers really don’t have to wear the dress uniform that often, so being on funeral detail meant you had to press and shine a lot of stuff. But I could tell the families really appreciated it. It was always WWII veterans, and many of the families had long forgotten ever seeing their loved one in uniform - so it was special to them to have us there.


70 posted on 09/22/2014 3:13:53 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: MeganC

“I’m sorry, did you mistake this forum for the Pantywaisted Gun-Haters Forum? “

No, I mistook it for a forum where I didn’t have to agree with the status quo and could exercise my 1st Amendment rights.

My mistake.

PS — I own three guns and my grandfather was a veteran of both World Wars, sharpshooter in the first one, taught me to handle guns.

And since everybody seems so interested, I wear flameproof size XL Jockey twist proof y-fronts.


71 posted on 09/22/2014 3:15:49 PM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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To: RightOnTheBorder

“Had someone stuck a new primer in their you would have a point. As this was a souvenire spent caseing I can’t imagine that was the case. Without a primer what potential danger do you see?”

Put yourself in the school’s place: they probably weren’t gun experts and had know way of knowing that, or any of the other detailed information provided here. They only saw a seven year old with ammunition of unknown pedigree or origin (as stated in one image).

In an age of school violence and parental stupidity, they did the right thing by enforcing their own written policy.


72 posted on 09/22/2014 3:20:37 PM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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To: RaveOn

It IS an empty brass tube! Why does it matter how it was emptied? You surely don’t believe the BS that you spewed here?


73 posted on 09/22/2014 3:21:29 PM PDT by eeriegeno (<p>)
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To: RaveOn
"It’s not an empty brass tube, it’s a shell casing. It’s not a toy and it’s not for kids. The school has no way of knowing where it came from, how it was emptied, or whether it’s been tampered with in some half-assed attempt at reloading. In other words, it’s still potentially dangerous to other students, and that is most definitely the school’s business and their responsibility."

You sound like a moron. What are you doing here? The school site undoubtedly has sharp objects, blunt objects, and flammable liquids on site, all of which would pose a greater safety threat than this shell casing.
74 posted on 09/22/2014 3:25:21 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: MeganC
"I'm sorry, did you mistake this forum for the Pantywaisted Gun-Haters Forum? If so, then I can understand your ignorance and your demonstrable hoplophobia. Otherwise, I think your stay here will be short, at best."

Well said.
75 posted on 09/22/2014 3:26:08 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: RaveOn
Put yourself in the school’s place: they probably weren’t gun experts and had know way of knowing that,...

You are arguing that the lowest level of knowledge and intelligence should set the rules of conduct for us all. Very Progressive!

76 posted on 09/22/2014 3:27:01 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Are you kidding? They are obsolete now, since we have those fancy pull-rings on all of the cans now LOL. (Klemper’s mouth is agape, as he watches his fancy pull-ring fail and snap off of his can of Spam)


77 posted on 09/22/2014 3:27:33 PM PDT by Klemper
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To: RaveOn

Honestly, I remember having teachers who had large casings made into memorabilia, displayed on their desks. They used to be a fairly common chotski. Lots of kids had them on a necklace chain too....complete with a bullet.

I understand the world has changed though.

A co-worker used to have a few chotski casings in his cube, along with a live .45-70 round. I told him that HR would freak out on him one day, and he should remove it. Eventually he took my advice (right after Sandy Hook when people were going bonkers).

So I can see how, in our current world, the casing could cause a minor panic. But even though I have grown to expect that as a predictable response, I don’t agree that it is a correct response. It is just part of a growing wave of fanatical anti-gun hysteria, and I would caution against buying into it. If you take a step back, it really is just a hunk of metal. Unless the kid whips a reloading kit out of his pocket, he’s not going to do much with the casing, other than show it to the other kids.


78 posted on 09/22/2014 3:27:42 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: eeriegeno

All the teacher saw was a 7 yr old with a bullet. That teacher probably wasn’t a firearms expert, and certainly didn’t know the origin, status, or provenance of the “empty brass tube”.

But they were responsible for enforcing a school policy meant to protect the safety and well-being of the other students.


79 posted on 09/22/2014 3:27:53 PM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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To: RaveOn
"No, I mistook it for a forum where I didn’t have to agree with the status quo and could exercise my 1st Amendment rights."

And we (some of us) are exercising ours in thinking your opinion is idiotic.
80 posted on 09/22/2014 3:30:03 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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