Posted on 09/18/2014 9:42:19 PM PDT by george76
John Kerry was speaking about ISIS. And he’s wrong. As usual.
1. Mohammed practiced slavery
2. The Islamic campaigns were carried out for loot. Including the human kind. Many of Mohammed’s first Muslims were out for slaves. Including female slaves.
3. Mohammed enslaved and raped women
These are all facts that are not seriously in dispute.
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Mohammed’s armies looted and killed the men and enslaved the women. It’s elementary Islamic history.
The only thing Kerry got right is that there’s nothing in the Koran about shooting the men. Guns didn’t exist then. That’s why they chopped off their heads instead.
That’s why ISIS does it today.
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Nutcases, both of them.
Women and girls are property according to Islam. They belong to the head men in their lives and to the kingdom of Islam.
This is why both women and girls can be "honor killed" by the men with near impunity.
Is islam a peaceful religion?
I could just imagine John Kerry in front of the black flag of AQ blubbering on about how the guy about to cut off his head does not represent Islam.
He was right when he said that ISIS didn't offer healthcare.
I think George W. Bush beat him in those debates. Kerry did get in a dig at VPOTUS Dick Cheney's lesbian daughter, however.
Thanks for the history. I hadn’t read about Mohammed’s successors before.
I don’t know who is more unbearable, Zippy or Kerry.
Mohammedans represent about 1% of our population. 9/11 did nothing to halt Mohammedan immigration. If nothing else, this latest reign of terror may begin to awaken Europe and the Americas.
BTW, use the term Mohammedan, not Muslim. The former means "follower of Mohammed," which is what they are, not followers of God. Mohammedans hate it, which is why you will never hear the Left use it.
Excellent. The truth divides, doesn't it?
#4 Muhammad (Pigs Be Upon Him) was a pedophile/child rapist.
Nephew, cousin, and SIL all at the same time?
I don’t really like being in the position of defending Kerry, but ...
I think a lot of people realize that true historic Islam was founded and often followed as a brutal system for enforcing the will of the strong against the week. We have at least two choices:
1) Confront Islam as our fathers confronted the Nazis. Point our the historic and current evils and attempt to destroy Islam as a system of government.
2) Oppose any piece of Islam that carries out violence against us or our allies while attempting a support individuals and groups in Islamic countries that are non violent (and might secretly not truly believe in their religion anyway). This includes giving those groups cover against their domestic forces that are presently moderately opposed to us but are in danger of being pushed into the more hard line camp.
I don’t believe the West is currently politically united enough to follow plan 1. Maybe a lot of people who express opinions on this web site are, but the West as a whole mostly is not.
The only thing that I think could unit the West against Islam is fear. I truly hope plan 2 is effective enough to prevent incidents that could lead to plan 1.
But what’s in that cotton candy and I won’t even ask the other obvious question.
Nephew, cousin, and Son In Law all at the same time?
Yes, welcome to the wacky world of Islam, where marrying a cousin is considered normal, and in some places (like Afghanistan) is the majority of marriages. Birth defects are rampant after generations of such inbreeding. The insular Amish suffer high rates of birth defects too.
The example of the Prophet is held so highly in Islamic law, that incest practiced in his backwater, at that time far back in their development, has been enshrined as a revered social custom.
The rate of birth defects is 2-3% higher when first cousins marry, but when this is done for generations, the rate gets to around 25%. Saudia Arabia has a lot of family members who are kept inside the walls of the family compound.
It is pretty common that mentally impaired folks are used for the suicide attacks that have become popular within Islam since Ayatollah Khomeni reintroduced them - they can be remotely detonated, by someone who is not quite a moron themselves.
What you propose is what has been done at many times in history, and in many places - manage the teaching and preaching of Islam, to steer it away from organized violence. That is a big reason why there is so often a big government role in appointing religious authorities in Islam.
In Islamic countries, they know they have to monitor imams, or they can have a revolt on their hands, a civil war within their society, or an international incident.
Even in countries that have just a significant muslim minority, monitoring and restrictions on teaching and preaching are widely practiced. For example, majority Christian Ethiopia limits the propagation of the more violent interpretations of Islam, appoints the high-level Islamic authorities to the Majlis, and promotes the moderate Al-Ahbash sect.
The well funded wahabbis and salafis are in the streets there now too however, trying to establish radical mosques and trying to raise a covert army of subversives and terrorists.
A country, and a society must have an immune system capable of surviving the types of attacks that Islam wages, and the West has been in denial of this threat, and has stripped away their historical protections. When the doors were open to Islam, we did not receive just a random draw from the population - many of the most pernicious and dangerous elements fled to the West, to escape the repression of their governments (who knew enough to oppress such violent extremists). The muslim brotherhood is now headquartered in London, and the USA is a large fundraising area for terrorist groups.
Your proposal to protect moderate muslims from the extremists is not even really practiced within our own borders - little distinction is made between those who preach militant hate and those from traditionally moderate schools of thought. Indeed, the militants, well funded from the Gulf Arabs, have come to dominate the great majority of US mosques and madrassas, and systematically recruit within our prisons.
Islam has changed all around the globe since Saudi oil money has replaced the Imams and textbooks across the Islamic world, and financed the organization of militant groups.
The bottom Line is that you have to monitor Islam and control violent strains from spreading (with often severe punishments like asset seizure, imprisonment, censorship and expulsion), or it will aggressively attack and deliberately subvert your society.
An adequate guy on our side should have been able to mop the floor with Kerry. Just winning wasn’t sufficient.
Although I don’t give Bush high marks for debating, I agree he won. I also think the debate format hinders a free open discussion of the issues.
I don’t remember the exact structure of those debates, but you probably know what I mean.
As for Cheney’s daughter, if a Republican tried to make points on the subject of a Democrat having a Lesbian daughter, the only question that Republican would asked for the next five years would be related to it, with the goal of destroying that Republican. When the advocates for homosexuals do it, it’s just a grand idea. The press is all a flutter with the tactic. DISGUSTING!
Gruesome as they are, these photos are necessary to be shown. We have to awake the world to the Islamic threat.
As Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaiologos, one of the last Christian rulers before the fall of Constantinople to the Muslim Ottoman Empire, in a dialogue with a Persian Muslim scholar, he asked:
Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.[
We better start being clear that we need to defend our faith and our way of life. lest we loose them.
Horrendous photos of ISIS’ barbaric crusade to spread Islam now underway...................
Do not allow children to see these photos.
This is really bad stuff -— please delete quickly if you are at all squeamish! (this is no joke!!!) This is why this vermin must be eradicated completely.
Caution!
These pictures are truly graphic and depict Nazi type brutality. These people are not animals, animals don’t kill for sport.
Subject: Photo Evidence of ISIS’ Crusade to spread Islam now underway...
THIS IS ROUGH STUFF !!
If you cannot handle brutality, please go no further, it is not nice to see, sorry but true !!!!! If this doesn’t get you worked up and want to destroy these animals nothing will. It might just stir up Obama but I doubt that anything will...
These photos show ISIS brutality in action. The photos get worse as you progressed through them. They show the ISIS’ treatment of Christians and other “Infidels” in Iraq and Syria.
The photos were received from a Franciscan priest to show with what we are dealing and to begin to understand what is at hand in order to develop solutions.
AMERICAN BEWARE OF TAQIYYA MUSLIMS!!
“Those who do not learn from History are damned it repeat it” George Santayana
ISLAM, RELIGION OF PEACE
Remember Otranto
http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/how-the-800-martyrs-of-otranto-saved-rome
y Famagusta
http://archive.redstate.com/story/2006/7/25/104316/421
HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF
Islam is as much a religion of peace and tolerance today as it has been since its foundation by Muhammad in the 8th century.
THE ISLAMIC STATE IN IRAQ and Syria
MUSLIMS Crucifies and behead Christian boys
Gruesome and revolting pictures
https://www.google.com/search?q=isis+beheading+children&rlz=2T4NDKB_enUS0538US0540&biw=1024&bih=515&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=dSccVM7aO6nI8gGq9YHIDA&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ
MUSLIMS MASSACRE CHRISTIANS IN NIGERIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ahz3BEhkyho
WHO ARE NIGERIA’S BOKO HARAM?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VN_7A3mNKg&feature=player_detailpage
“Those who maintain that understanding jihad as a holy war constitutes a sort of deviation from the true Islamic tradition are therefore not telling the truth, and history sadly demonstrates that violence has characterized Islam since its origin, and that Mohammed himself systematically. We must also recognize the natural right of every society to defend its own cultural, religious, and political identity. It seems to me that this is precisely what Pius V did.”(Christianity and Islam in History by Monsignor Walter Brandmüller, president of the Vatican Pontifical Committee for Historical Sciences)
ALLOW IN U.S. ONLY PERSECUTED CHRISTIANS AND JEWS FLEEING FROM ISLAMIC SAVAGELY
DEPORT ALL THOSE WHO SUPPORT RADICAL MUSLIMS TO THEIR OWN COUNTRIES
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