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Scottish independence: First referendum results declared
BBC.com ^ | 9/18/14 | ?

Posted on 09/18/2014 6:04:31 PM PDT by blueyon

The first results are coming in for the referendum to decide whether Scotland should stay in the UK or become an independent country.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alexsalmond; europeanunion; independence; scotland; scotlandyet; scottish; uk; unitedkingdom
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To: WeatherGuy; hoagy62; a fool in paradise; Darksheare

Yeah, if the bigger cities are saying NO too, this is all over but the crying and teeth gnashing and the lamentations of the Yes Women.


141 posted on 09/18/2014 8:45:15 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: blueyon

These “live” threads are the best of FR, IMHO.

Thanks for this one.


142 posted on 09/18/2014 8:45:43 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: goldstategop

yes... Cameron already said they’d get more autonomy... now Cameron faces Parliament to make that happen. lol


143 posted on 09/18/2014 8:46:34 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Socialists always seem to get trounced at the ballot box.

So much for Sweden on the North Sea.


144 posted on 09/18/2014 8:46:41 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: bd476
Also it's a bit disconcerting that teenagers younger than 18 are eligible to vote.

That's the part that really sticks out for me - that's a sandbag. But which direction? On the one hand, young people "want to be independant." On the other hand, TOO young of a person "wants to get along" and also doesn't want to lose their familiy identification. So I believe some extremely professional level metrics were done on this issue by whomever pushed for this age of voter, in order to swing the election to their choice - apparently to "no."

145 posted on 09/18/2014 8:48:23 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

They reduced the voting age to 16.

But teens apparently didn’t buy it.


146 posted on 09/18/2014 8:49:24 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
NO Votes 1,031,472 - 55.32%
YES Votes 833,031 - 44.68%
TARGET TO WIN Votes - N/A%
After 21 of 32 counts

147 posted on 09/18/2014 8:53:59 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: goldstategop

What does the Koch tartan look like?


148 posted on 09/18/2014 8:54:16 PM PDT by gasport (President Omoeba needs to evolve a spine)
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To: goldstategop

Glasgow results are coming.


149 posted on 09/18/2014 8:54:32 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: goldstategop
But teens apparently didn’t buy it.

You mean they didn't vote, or that they voted No? Because if they voted it seems to be No.

150 posted on 09/18/2014 8:54:44 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: goldstategop

Big thumbs up!


151 posted on 09/18/2014 8:55:47 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: goldstategop

Thanks for the insight.

I like that Scottland has been given, or has taken this opportunity.

I have mixed thoughts on independence. I can see clear reasons for it.

If you wouldn’t mind sharing your thoughts on it, I’d like to read them.

If not, I understand. I have no axe to grind either way.


152 posted on 09/18/2014 8:55:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama and the Left are maggots feeding off the flesh of the United States.)
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To: TomGuy

Look at the margin -

Independence being crushed by double digits!

And to think the “Yes” side had victory in the bag a few weeks ago.

Never count your chickens before they hatch.


153 posted on 09/18/2014 8:56:09 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Talisker

The kids apparently voted “no.”

Socialism is wasted on the young.


154 posted on 09/18/2014 8:57:14 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Right_in_Virginia; Talisker; goldstategop; DoughtyOne; blueyon
Right_in_Virginia wrote: " These "live" threads are the best of FR, IMHO. Thanks for this one."


Agree! Thank you!

BBC announcer said that Glasgow has been hit harder than many areas with deprivation, or he said something to that effect.

Glasgow returns with only 75% turnout voted 53% Yes to 46% No


155 posted on 09/18/2014 8:58:17 PM PDT by bd476
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To: blueyon

From BBC coverage on C-Span:

Yes 1,055,716

No 1,256,372


156 posted on 09/18/2014 8:58:38 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Ask about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: goldstategop

The BBC commentators are now saying that the Yes votes can’t overcome the No vote margin.

Call it....


157 posted on 09/18/2014 8:58:41 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: bd476; goldstategop

Wow, I didn’t expect that. I figured it would pretty much be a squeaker either way.

70 to 35, that’s way outside my perception before the vote.

Just a few days ago, the media had me thinking it was going to happen.

Did the media want to see independence happen?


158 posted on 09/18/2014 8:58:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama and the Left are maggots feeding off the flesh of the United States.)
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To: bd476

It won’t be enough to make up the difference in the rest of Scotland because its too small and when Edinburgh comes in, it’ll be nowhere near enough.


159 posted on 09/18/2014 8:59:39 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: blueyon

Sky News have called it for the “nays.”


160 posted on 09/18/2014 9:00:30 PM PDT by clintonh8r (It's possible to love your country and hate your government. I'm proof of it.)
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