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Army is worried too many white men lead combat units; racial diversity lacking
The Washington Times ^ | 9/11/14 | Douglas Ernst

Posted on 09/12/2014 5:26:54 AM PDT by Enlightened1

U.S. Army sociologists are worried that a lack of black officers leading its combat troops will have detrimental effect on minorities and lead to fewer black officers in top leadership posts.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; diversity; men; white
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To: Enlightened1

There is no better example than this for the utter irrational lunacy of the left. Occupations where actual lives and public safety are on the line (Military Officers, Defense Scientists and Engineers)are constantly chastised for not having enough “diversity”, while conveniently ignoring the fact that minorities are actually already OVERREPRESENTED based on percent actually qualified for the job in the general population (college ed, right degree, able to hold a clearance, etc.). However, when we then look at the NBA/NFL, a stupid game in which no one’s life is at risk, it is “too important” to support diversity by hiring more under-represented players (e.g. whites).


21 posted on 09/12/2014 5:41:34 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: Enlightened1

The Army needs to push to have Major Hassan released from prison to run the Army.


22 posted on 09/12/2014 5:42:02 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Enlightened1
This kind of idiocy kills people.

My contempt for leftists defies description.

23 posted on 09/12/2014 5:42:26 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Well, if this problem had been addressed years ago, the military might have forseen the danger of Guam capsizing.


24 posted on 09/12/2014 5:42:31 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Enlightened1

I never had any problem serving under somebody of any race - because I knew that if they had got there, it was because they had earned it.

Just the fact that the idea of putting somebody in command because of their race has been voiced, can lead to people starting to doubt that - the mere expression of the idea works against the interests of the people it’s supposedly meant to help.

Because everybody can wonder “Is he there because he’s good enough - or just because he ticked the right boxes on the chart?”

You should never have any reason to doubt that the person giving you orders deserved to be there. Such doubts are poison.


25 posted on 09/12/2014 5:43:54 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Enlightened1

Considering Caucasians are over represented in the combat arms fields and Negroes are underrepresented in those same fields what is the problem, especially since Negroes hold 10% of the jobs and they are only 13% of the total population. It sounds about right to me.


26 posted on 09/12/2014 5:44:38 AM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: elpadre

We need to have the best and the brightest in leadership positions if and when we go to war. The military is not the place for racial quotas and social experiments. There are many competent black soldiers/airmen in leadership positions today because they EARNED it. We don’t need to turn the military into a political fiasco by appointing flunkies like Obama has done with his staff and administration.


27 posted on 09/12/2014 5:45:11 AM PDT by ImNotLying
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To: skeeter
This kind of idiocy kills people.

That's why the leftists (who are not idiots) support it.

They deliberately intend to destroy America. They have to destroy America's military to accomplish that.

28 posted on 09/12/2014 5:45:25 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: Enlightened1

Lack of diversity was the chief cause of the Japanese and German defeats in WWII.

You could look it up...


29 posted on 09/12/2014 5:45:29 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: naturalman1975

In 1969 at Fort Ord, my drill sgt, 1st sgt and mess sgt as well as others were black.


30 posted on 09/12/2014 5:46:06 AM PDT by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: Enlightened1

The fact is that not all groups are randomly distributed across all measures.

Blacks in the Army tend to select support functions more frequently than the general population, and the Combat Arms (Infantry, Armor, Artillery, Engineer) less than average.

There are many cultural and economic reasons that influence these decisions, and ultimately, everyone is an individual. Using statistics, you can predict pretty accurately outcomes for large groups, but not so for individuals.

My guess as to one big reason why Blacks disproportionally self-select for support specialties, is that many (like my white self) go into the Army as an avenue to advance themselves in life - to get an education and get a marketable skill. There are not many ads in the wanted section for machine gun operators. I have no doubt there are other factors as well - people are complicated.

When they say that they have a plan - but its complicated, what they mean is that they impose quotas on promotion for blacks (and historically women and Hispanics as well), but they can not say so, because the courts do not support this reverse discrimination approach. This has been the case for decades.


31 posted on 09/12/2014 5:47:51 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Enlightened1

The mere fact that the US Army employs sociologists sends shivers down my spine.


32 posted on 09/12/2014 5:53:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Lee'sGhost

“Kind of ironic, ain’t it...that the Sharptons and Jacksons of the world must REALLY hate that quote.”

Yup, for sure. In the early days of thr Iraq War Charlie Rangel would periodically get in tv and rant about the disportinate number of blacks in combat units and that something should be done about it. Finally, some reporter bothered to do some research and found Charlie’s contention not true. When confronted with the facts Charlie shut his pie hole and to my knowledge has never brought it up again. The fact is, blacks don’t volunteer in representative numbers for combat units, especially the elit units. Hispanics on the other hand have a long history of volunteering for the Marines and have performed exemplarily. Don’t know why blacks don’t volunteer for combat units in proportional numbers. I’ll leave that to others to answer....


33 posted on 09/12/2014 5:56:44 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: x1stcav

Whether by purpose or just the result, the payback is unlikely to stop until we are no more.

Wonder what the liberals think will come up from our ashes? Doubtful they think that far ahead, most of holders peoples certainly don’t, think very far ahead.


34 posted on 09/12/2014 5:59:36 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

That’s my first reaction too. Obama is purging the military of fighting men and replacing them with these administrative/social justice types.


35 posted on 09/12/2014 6:01:20 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Enlightened1

U.S. Army sociologists... there’s the problem.


36 posted on 09/12/2014 6:02:40 AM PDT by maddog55
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

BINGO! Give that man a cupie doll. Exactly what has happened to damn near every metropolitan police dept. In this country.
In my opinion, this helps explain why there has been such an increase police misconduct over the past few decades. The drive for “diversity” requires that hiring standards must be lowered.


37 posted on 09/12/2014 6:05:05 AM PDT by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Phillip Nolan by the day.)
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To: OldMissileer

“hold 10% of the jobs and they are only 13% of the total population”

That clearly does not apply to TV advertising. Then again the demographics of advertising may be to direct toward the audience that tends to piss away money on things.


38 posted on 09/12/2014 6:05:17 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Enlightened1

Americas enemies love these advocates.


39 posted on 09/12/2014 6:06:38 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: rfreedom4u

Diversity doesn’t mean proportionate distribution.
Diversity means fewer white men and less Western Culture.

So, th NBA is ‘diverse’.


40 posted on 09/12/2014 6:10:28 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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