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Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Laments That Roe Abortion Case Activated a Pro-Life Movement
Life News ^ | 9/11/14 | Dave Andrusko

Posted on 09/11/2014 12:01:47 PM PDT by wagglebee

It seems as if every few months pro-abortion Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg gives a speech and/or interview in which she talks about how if only the Supreme Court had reached the same decision it did in Roe but over time, step by step, “the public would have reacted in a more positive way than it did,” as she told Jill Filipovic of Cosmopolitan this week.

This is what I have previously described as the “tempo” argument. Justice Ginsburg has not a single pro-life metacarpal in her body, but she often argues that it would have placed the “right” to abortion on surer footing if instead of getting everything in one fell swoop (in Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton), abortion litigants had won more gradually.

She recycled her argument that Roe/Doe crystallized the Pro-Life Movement by establishing a “target.” Ginsburg told Filipovic

“Roe v. Wade, that case name is probably the best-known case of the second half of the 20th century. And a movement focused on ending access to abortion for women grew up, flourished, around that one target. Nine unelected judges decided that one issue for the nation.”

Last year, in a speech, Ginsburg remarked, “And that’s not the way the Court ordinarily operates.”

Likewise her concurrence, expressed many times before, that the Texas law at issue in Roe should have been overturned. It’s not a “what” for her but a “how.” And Ginsburg reiterated that she had problems with the “how.” Filipovic writes

“the court’s decision to issue a sweeping judgment establishing the right to abortion in all 50 states was a strategically poor one and led to modern-day political battles over reproductive rights.

“’There might have been a backlash in any case,’ Ginsburg said. ‘But I think [because of Roe] it took on steam.’”

To be sure it’s Filipovic paraphrasing Justice Ginsburg, but shouldn’t it be unsettling that a Supreme Court decision would be judged on whether it was a ‘strategically’ smart one or not?

We all understand that Justice Blackmun’s turgid opinion was steeped in politics. So, too, with the lawyers that brought the case to the Supreme Court. As we posted the other day, the central claims in a law review article written by Cyril Means that Blackmun relied on so heavily were not true, as David Tundermann, a Yale law student and part of the team challenging the Texas law, warned in 1971.

We quoted scholar Justin Dyer who wrote that Tundermann concluded

”Where the important thing to do is to win the case no matter how, however, I suppose I agree with Means’s technique: begin with a scholarly attempt at historical research; if it doesn’t work out, fudge it as necessary; write a piece so long that others will read only your introduction and conclusion; then keep citing it until the courts begin picking it up. This preserves the guise of impartial scholarship while advancing the proper ideological goals.”

So it is only appropriate to talk about politics and how Roe was a “strategically poor decision.”

In response to a question, Ginsburg reaffirmed what she had said at her 1993 confirmation hearing. “A woman’s control of her own body, her choice whether and when to reproduce, it’s essential to women and it’s most basic for women’s health.” The “health” of the unborn child is not even worth mentioning, even if only to deny its significance.

And like many older pro-abortion feminists, “Ginsburg worries that young women are complacent about their rights.” No, they are abortion “survivors” who have grown up in an era when the visibility of their unborn sisters and brothers is more evident each and every day.

As a final touch Ginsburg caricatures the “Hobby Lobby” decision to the point of absurdity. As NRLC pointed out last July, the ruling provided a modest victory for religious conscience rights but did nothing to truly correct any of the major abortion-expanding problems created by Obamacare.

But in Ginsburg’s hands, the decision could portend the day that companies can claim “they wouldn’t hire a woman without the permission of her husband or father, if that’s what their religion dictates.”

Does anyone believe that, even Ginsburg? Of course not, although this kind of reductio ad absurdum argument was essential to the dissent of four justices.

A much more realistic future scenario would start with the fact that what was at issue in Hobby Lobby was the attempt by Obama’s Department of Health and Human Services to force family-owned for-profit corporations to directly purchase health insurance covering certain drugs and devices that violate the employer’s religious and moral beliefs.

What would prevent HHS from issuing a further expansion of its “preventive services” mandate to require that most employers also provide coverage for surgical abortions, or for doctor-prescribed suicide, that would be just as expansive as the contraceptive mandate?

Ginsburg’s final observation is extremely telling. Filipovic writes

“Roe, she said, could serve as a lesson in how the judiciary is vulnerable to accusations that they lack accountability, and how perhaps more can be accomplished — and accomplished more calmly — incrementally, even in the social justice realm.

“’You give it to them softly,’ Ginsburg said. ‘And you build them up to what you want.’”

So….”accountability” for the ‘nine unelected justices” is when you snooker the public by obtaining the verdict you wanted all along, but doing so “softly.”

Now that, even by pro-abortion standards, is cynical.

LifeNews.com Note: Dave Andrusko is the editor of National Right to Life News and an author and editor of several books on abortion topics. This post originally appeared at National Right to Life News Today.


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“Roe, she said, could serve as a lesson in how the judiciary is vulnerable to accusations that they lack accountability, and how perhaps more can be accomplished — and accomplished more calmly — incrementally, even in the social justice realm.

“’You give it to them softly,’ Ginsburg said. ‘And you build them up to what you want.’”

So, she thinks that unconstitutional judicial activism is just fine as long as it's done incrementally.

1 posted on 09/11/2014 12:01:47 PM PDT by wagglebee
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3 posted on 09/11/2014 12:03:11 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Okay. Who’s the wise guy that woke Ruthie up?


4 posted on 09/11/2014 12:04:01 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't just stand there! Help fight political correctness!)
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To: wagglebee

Or, as long as the Left doesn’t get caught in the middle of raping the rest of us.


5 posted on 09/11/2014 12:05:37 PM PDT by Pecos (That government governs best which governs least..)
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To: wagglebee

Man, Ginsburg is way too close to eternity to keep bragging about how good it is to murder children, albeit more discreetly.


6 posted on 09/11/2014 12:05:59 PM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: wagglebee; GeronL

Laments? You are kidding!


7 posted on 09/11/2014 12:07:12 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: wagglebee
Roe Abortion Case Activated a Pro-Life Movement...

I can only hope that, like Roe, having a Marxist Islamist (TM by Ø), Alinskyite as 'resident activates a sustained shift to Constitutional Conservatism.

8 posted on 09/11/2014 12:07:27 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: wagglebee

Yeah, I guess we should all just shut up about the murder of millions of babies.


9 posted on 09/11/2014 12:08:00 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: wagglebee

Roe helped the libertarians change their second, and successive platforms, to unrestricted abortion, zero restrictions or restraints.

In 1972 they had made the mistake of using the 100 day limit.

Being libertarians, they quickly caught their error though.


10 posted on 09/11/2014 12:09:03 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: wagglebee

Newton’s Third Law applied to politics.


11 posted on 09/11/2014 12:09:20 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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To: wagglebee
So, she thinks that unconstitutional judicial activism is just fine as long as it's done incrementally.

If you look at her votes there doesn't appear to be anything incremental about them. She would have voted with the majority at the time for Roe vs Wade.

12 posted on 09/11/2014 12:09:27 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: wagglebee

I just hope she does not retire before Obama goes


13 posted on 09/11/2014 12:09:48 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: wagglebee

“just fine as long as it’s done incrementally”

All progressive/liberals depend upon the “FROG IN THE POT”. Unfortunately, the grand majority of Americans are like frogs.

“The boiling frog story is a widespread anecdote describing a frog slowly being boiled alive. The premise is that if a frog is placed in boiling water, it will jump out, but if it is placed in cold water that is slowly heated, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death. The story is often used as a metaphor for the inability or unwillingness of people to react to significant changes that occur gradually.”


14 posted on 09/11/2014 12:10:18 PM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: wagglebee

The question is: will Justice Gindburg get a chance to explain her point of view to her Maker? Or, will she just go straight to H***?


15 posted on 09/11/2014 12:10:20 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Starstruck
She would have voted with the majority at the time for Roe vs Wade.

But probably written her own opinion about how ever Roe is too "restrictive" and that killing 4000 babies a day just isn't good enough.

16 posted on 09/11/2014 12:11:19 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I think it’s Judgement Seat,then on to your final zip code.


17 posted on 09/11/2014 12:13:59 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: wagglebee

Well, golly gee, maybe if the people were “allowed” to resolve the issue on their own, through their legislatures, or acting as their own legislatures through the ballot box, such a movement would never had arisen. But Harry Blackmun was impatient!


18 posted on 09/11/2014 12:15:37 PM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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This ?woman? is extremely lucky that abortion wasn’t as common at the time of her conception....


19 posted on 09/11/2014 12:15:40 PM PDT by Boonie ("Nuke 'em all...Let Allah sort 'em out...)
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To: wagglebee

” “the public would have reacted in a more positive way than it did,” as she told Jill Filipovic of Cosmopolitan this week.”

Or perhaps the little froggies won’t react at all.


20 posted on 09/11/2014 12:16:04 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (I don't have a soul, I'm a soul that has a body. -- Unknown)
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