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Doesn't boggle the mind in the least. Not nowadays.
1 posted on 08/23/2014 12:59:09 PM PDT by chessplayer
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The theater refused to allow its patrons to defend themselves by putting up signs that made it illegal for CHL holders to be armed.

They need to be punished financially for such a stupid decision.


2 posted on 08/23/2014 1:00:50 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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Given the “no firearms” signs, it wasn’t inevitable, but clearly an increased likelihood.


3 posted on 08/23/2014 1:01:13 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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The people of Aurora should ride this judge out on a rail. Judges like this are the ones ruining this country. They wave their scepters and rule worse than Kings. But... Since this sign was up, he may have a point.
5 posted on 08/23/2014 1:05:30 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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I was boggled until I read about the sign.

I am now unboggled. When the owner explicitly refuses to allow customers in his establishment to protect themselves, then he is shouldering the responsibility in their stead, and he failed to protect them.


8 posted on 08/23/2014 1:16:49 PM PDT by Sparklite
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The California courts dealt with this issue 30 years ago after the McDonald's shooting in San Diego. Their holding sounds just as relevant to this case: Under the circumstances here, it cannot be reasonably urged that had McDonald's provided an unarmed, uniformed licensed security guard, the massacre would have been prevented or its extent diminished. The record defies such a conclusion. Rather, it paints a portrait of a demented, mentally unbalanced man, bent on murder and self-destruction, who viewed the nearby McDonald's restaurant with his binoculars from his apartment, kissed his wife goodbye and stated he was going "hunting for humans." Huberty set out to kill the most people possible and went to the restaurant, unconcerned with detection, dressed in camouflage fatigue pants and heavily armed. Upon entry into the restaurant, he immediately began firing his weapons indiscriminately at everything and everyone in sight, reloading his weapons periodically and walking up and down the aisles slaughtering those he found still alive. His only apparent motive was killing. He made no effort to rob the restaurant, made no demands for money, and made no effort to take hostages. His indiscriminate slaughter of human beings — the worst mass killing by a single assailant in recent American history — only ended when he believed all were dead and he was felled by a police sharpshooter.

On this record, we conclude plaintiffs have failed to establish any triable issue that there was a causal nexus between McDonald's nonfeasance, if any, and the resulting injuries. Any reasonable protective measure such as security cameras, alarms and unarmed security guards, might have deterred ordinary criminal conduct because of the potential of identification and capture, but could not reasonably be expected to deter or hinder a maniacal, suicidal assailant unconcerned with his own safety, bent on committing mass murder.

11 posted on 08/23/2014 1:20:01 PM PDT by Benito Cereno
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So where could you go, or what could you do that would not have the foreseeable consequence of your being shot by a mad man?
Naval base? Army base? School? Hospital Church? Airport? Home? Mall? Restaurant? Hotel? Highway?
All of these places have been the scenes of senseless murders. If every conceivable venue is susceptible to the actions of lunatics how can a theater be singled out?
12 posted on 08/23/2014 1:23:43 PM PDT by Old North State
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Judge was appointed by Obama. . .

From the Freeper addenda to the new ICD-10:

321.0 SPLAT Liberal Cerebral Defenestration (LCD) or Liberal Acquired Brain Absence (LABA), Complete loss of rationality, cognition, and cerebration due to indiscriminately keeping one's mind so far open that the brain falls out. First and subsequent encounters.

13 posted on 08/23/2014 1:24:00 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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One of my favorite memes I created.

15 posted on 08/23/2014 1:26:18 PM PDT by CodeToad (Romney is a raisin cookie looking for chocolate chip cookie votes.)
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Great. Now there will be metal detectors on every auditorium and church for insurance purposes.


16 posted on 08/23/2014 1:28:12 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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“Noting “the grim history of mass shootings and mass killings that have occurred in more recent times,” U.S. District Court Judge R. Brooke Jackson ruled that Cinemark — owner of the Century Aurora 16 theater — could have predicted that movie patrons might be targeted for an attack.”

Based on that concept and ruling, President Obama, who has all the money and all the staff, the NSA, DHS,and the FBI, should have predicted this, and given CINEMARK a ‘heads up’.

All lawsuits should be directed against Obama, before anyone can direct a lawsuit against CINEMARK.


17 posted on 08/23/2014 1:30:50 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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The liberal logic here is inescapable. Since crimes like this have occurred then this type of crime is foreseeable. If the crime is foreseeable then owners of private property are liable. In order to eliminate that liability private property should be eliminated. The crimes will continue but since all property will be gov. property no one will be liable for it. Problem solved!


18 posted on 08/23/2014 1:39:33 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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20 posted on 08/23/2014 1:44:30 PM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug.)
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This ruling could easily cause extreme disruption in our society by making any business owner potentially liable for not providing absolute security in any public place where a large number of people (targets) are gathered together.


21 posted on 08/23/2014 1:46:34 PM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a murderer, and find one... what's your plan?)
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Who is more mentally deranged, the shooter or Judge Jackson?


22 posted on 08/23/2014 1:47:19 PM PDT by upchuck (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care.)
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“Gun Free Zones” might become such a legal/insurance liability that they disappear.

Hallelujah!


23 posted on 08/23/2014 1:49:05 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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Huh. Judge Liberal Activist pushing the gun control endzone closer....

Huh.
27 posted on 08/23/2014 2:11:19 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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Perhaps ... the shooter went out of his way to go to that specific theater (over closer theaters) because it prohibited firearms on the premises, both serving as enticement to the madman and depriving patrons of a defense.


28 posted on 08/23/2014 2:13:50 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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Will the judge also consider that Colorado law allows building owners to force patrons to waive their unalienable right of self defense by prohibiting them from possession of their otherwise-legal firearms?


30 posted on 08/23/2014 3:07:22 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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Yes and they should prepare for asteroid strikes as well...


36 posted on 08/23/2014 3:28:42 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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One would expect mass shootings to have lawsuits...against any and everybody..

Funny, sandy hook has none...


37 posted on 08/23/2014 3:59:17 PM PDT by delchiante
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