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Is there definitive evidence for an expanding universe?
Creation Ministries International ^
| 8-19-14
| John G. Hartnett
Posted on 08/19/2014 11:11:23 AM PDT by fishtank
Is there definitive evidence for an expanding universe?
by John Hartnett
The spectral lines for this element still show the same distinctive pattern, but all have been shifted towards the red end of the spectrum. Expansion of the universe is fundamental to the big bang cosmology. No expansion means no big bang. By projecting cosmological expansion backwards in time, they assert, one will, hypothetically, come to a time where all points are the same. Since these points are all there is, then it logically follows that there is no space or time before this moment. It is the singularity, and we cannot use language couched in concepts of time when no time (or space) exists.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bigbang; creation; expanding; redshift
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Redshifted. The spectral lines for this element still show the same distinctive pattern, but all have been shifted towards the red end of the spectrum.
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posted on
08/19/2014 11:11:23 AM PDT
by
fishtank
To: fishtank
If it is expanding, what is it expanding into?.....................
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posted on
08/19/2014 11:12:57 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
To: fishtank
I’m not sure whether the universe is expanding, but on this planet there is ample evidence that stupidity is expanding.
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posted on
08/19/2014 11:18:23 AM PDT
by
WayneS
(Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
To: Red Badger
“If it is expanding, what is it expanding into?.....................”
I don’t care where we are going .... Just let me know when we get there.
To: fishtank
Yes there is. Global warming.
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posted on
08/19/2014 11:21:28 AM PDT
by
pallis
To: Red Badger
Chris Cristie?
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posted on
08/19/2014 11:22:35 AM PDT
by
fireforeffect
(A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
To: fishtank
The evidence is all around us....
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posted on
08/19/2014 11:22:59 AM PDT
by
Dallas59
To: fishtank
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posted on
08/19/2014 11:24:26 AM PDT
by
Usagi_yo
(I don't have a soul, I'm a soul that has a body. -- Unknown)
To: Red Badger
If it is expanding, what is it expanding into? Nothing
Sounds like a Pink Floyd Album title ...
Creation at the edge of nothing.
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posted on
08/19/2014 11:25:18 AM PDT
by
dartuser
To: fireforeffect
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posted on
08/19/2014 11:26:19 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
To: WayneS
“but on this planet there is ample evidence that stupidity is expanding.”
LOL
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posted on
08/19/2014 11:29:04 AM PDT
by
ThomasMore
(Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
To: fishtank
There is no “before” the big bang: the theory can not explain how the “universe the size of a pea, and unbelievably dense” came into existence.
So the theory is useless.
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posted on
08/19/2014 11:32:18 AM PDT
by
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posted on
08/19/2014 11:34:46 AM PDT
by
DJ MacWoW
(The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
To: I want the USA back
There is no before the big bang:Not in this dimension anyway.
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posted on
08/19/2014 11:40:36 AM PDT
by
Ghost of SVR4
(So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
To: fishtank
Article is very poor reasoning, embarrassing to the cause of creationism. It basically accepts “Big Bang” proof, then discounts it because a few flippant observations don’t instantly and uniformly match a brief summary of the theory, while flatly ignoring the sensible interpretation.
Example:
He observes the reality of “red shift” as a strong indicator of distance in an expanding universe, then rejects it because relatively fast-moving material exhibits a shift different than relatively stationary material, then because a sensible exception does not match the general description he rejects the entire “red shift indicates distance and therefore indicates chronology” reasoning, while completely failing to offer a sensible alternative explanation of redshifting - a rather stupid line of reasoning.
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posted on
08/19/2014 11:47:05 AM PDT
by
ctdonath2
("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Obama, setting RoE with his opposition)
To: fishtank
Physics is not my area, but I understood from those far smarter than I that the evidence shows the universe is not only expanding, but expanding at an accelerated pace.
Since the expansion is speeding up, that alone calls into serious question the validity of the so called ‘big bang’ theory.
Maybe someone can confirm or refute.
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posted on
08/19/2014 11:49:09 AM PDT
by
Paulie
(Get off the grid.)
To: fishtank
There is evidence of motion, but we have far to small a data sample to say definitively which way things are going.
Article is full of derp...
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posted on
08/19/2014 11:51:14 AM PDT
by
Dead Corpse
(Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
To: Dead Corpse
There are many data points. They are basically consistent, no matter which direction you look, things are moving away.
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posted on
08/19/2014 12:02:18 PM PDT
by
dangerdoc
((this space for rent))
To: Paulie; All
Since the expansion is speeding up, that alone calls into serious question the validity of the so called big bang theory.
Not necessarily...new research on the 'dark energy' that some researchers say inhabits two-thirds of the universe would confirm the 'big bang'...however, it also means that, at some point, the universe would end it's expansion and begin contracting, at some point in the distant future (a trillion years?) creating another singularity, paving the way for another big bang possibly?
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posted on
08/19/2014 12:13:06 PM PDT
by
notdownwidems
(Shellback pollywogs! U.S.S. William H. Standley, CG-32 1977-80)
To: fishtank
There is plenty of rather convincing evidence of an expanding universe.
Definite evidence? Is there such a thing?
There are alternate explanations but they too need to be confirmed by observations, so far none has.
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posted on
08/19/2014 12:21:58 PM PDT
by
BitWielder1
(Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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