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To: Beagle8U

NO, it is more likely he didn’t commit suicide, and if you had watched the police report you may have realized that. The facts do not support it in my opinion.

Who closes their pocket knife and puts it on the table in the middle of a suicide, and then hangs themselves in a chair with the belt in the side of the door? Anyone no longer breathing would struggle and the belt would have pulled out. The side of the door and not over the top? NO way.

Sleeping in a separate bedroom from his wife and she supposedly leaves in morning without checking on him, then doesn’t come home until he is discovered by an assistant. The last time she saw him was night before, just wonder what the discussion was all about.

AIDS...really, some FReepers just hate for the sake of hating, that’s what’s really sad. I have seen as much hate on here lately, as the Palestinians against Israel. So Sad.


24 posted on 08/12/2014 12:31:00 PM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...Time to honor it....be a Patriot.)
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To: Kackikat

Already a conspiracy! Well played.


33 posted on 08/12/2014 12:34:59 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: Kackikat

It sounds a little weird to me too. Although I have heard of people hanging themselves while seated. I hope they did a tox screen on him. He seemed like a pretty solid guy always, I don’t think a woman could easily over power him, unless he was under the influence of something.


36 posted on 08/12/2014 12:36:39 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Kackikat

The article said he had a disease, that was just a guess being that it is hollyweird.


39 posted on 08/12/2014 12:39:19 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Kackikat

Let’s hope the cops aren’t lazy on this one. Maybe we will learn more from the autopsy as well and for anything in his system.


40 posted on 08/12/2014 12:39:30 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Kackikat

I hate you.


41 posted on 08/12/2014 12:41:28 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Kackikat
He had three wives with two really nasty divorces.

Leni

43 posted on 08/12/2014 12:44:17 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Kackikat

Ok kids

Let’s look at this.

This was a man who suffered from bipolar disorder, it was no secret.

Bipolar disorder is a very difficult syndromes that causes lack of judgment and an inability to care for self. They often become psychotic both in their upswing and in the depression. Very difficult disease. So it would not be unusual for him to look emaciated and disheveled. In psych hospitals part of the treatment included giving meal supplementation like Boost for their malnutrition.

He cut himself a few times SUPERFICIALLY with a knife. Pretty common with people in emotional pain. So closing the knife is a reasonable expectation.

They he hanged himself with a belt. People use all sorts of ways to hang, and his method is not really unusual. No the do not struggle and save themselves. They are trying to kill themselves.

People who live with bipolars learn to avoid them at their worst. Makes sense that she didn’t see him. She was probably hoping that he fell asleep and didn’t want to wake him up because bipolars often do not sleep for days.


48 posted on 08/12/2014 12:52:08 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Kackikat

Those who hang themselves do it in a simple way. Sometimes just leaning forward with something wrapped around their neck. There isn’t much of a struggle.


67 posted on 08/12/2014 1:18:14 PM PDT by griswold3 (I was born here in America. I will die here in a third world country. Obama succeeded.)
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To: Kackikat
"NO, it is more likely he didn’t commit suicide, and if you had watched the police report you may have realized that. The facts do not support it in my opinion."
------------------------------------------------
+1. Something doesn't smell right. Maybe some kind of sex/choking game?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_asphyxiation
78 posted on 08/12/2014 1:23:16 PM PDT by Duke C.
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To: Kackikat

“Who closes their pocket knife and puts it on the table in the middle of a suicide, and then hangs themselves in a chair with the belt in the side of the door? Anyone no longer breathing would struggle and the belt would have pulled out. The side of the door and not over the top? NO way.”

I don’t think those things are that unusual. Suicides often try to cut their wrists and start by making tentative cuts to see if they have the stomach to do it. So, he probably did that and realized that he couldn’t go through with it.

People also manage to hang themselves the way Williams did fairly often, especially in prison. Once the oxygen is cut off to the brain, you quickly pass out and there is no struggling after that.

It would be much more unusual for a woman to have managed to murder an able-bodied man in such a strange way without obvious signs of a struggle.


82 posted on 08/12/2014 1:25:04 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Kackikat

I was wondering about the wife thing myself,,she said she last saw Williams alive at 10 pm the night before. How could that happen if you’re living in the same house? What kind of marriage is that?


107 posted on 08/12/2014 2:32:40 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: Kackikat
I share your analysis. Hesitation marks on his wrist - marks that are somewhat superficial - can indicate he tried to go the wrist cutting death but couldn't go through that. Maybe he wanted to spare his family the mess. Who knows what goes through the mind....

And, how does one strangle oneself found sitting in a chair with a belt looped around his neck somehow attached to a door?

I'm just not understanding the scene at all.

Very sad for his family and close friends.

165 posted on 08/13/2014 8:30:26 AM PDT by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period. 26 IS THE NEW 18. US = Koyaanisqatsi.)
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