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Chief: Police killed California robbery hostage [police shot hostage 10 times]]
Associated Press ^ | August 11, 2014

Posted on 08/11/2014 8:32:33 PM PDT by grundle

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A hostage kidnapped during a Northern California bank robbery was killed by police in an ensuing chase and shootout, likely during a final gunbattle where the lone surviving suspect used her as a human shield, authorities said Monday.

The results of a preliminary ballistics report show that police in the city of Stockton fired the 10 bullets that struck Misty Holt-Singh, 41, and all her wounds likely came during a final burst of gunfire, Stockton Police Chief Eric Jones said at a news conference.

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To: Chode

They hit her ten times? How many time was the kidnapper hit?


41 posted on 08/11/2014 9:28:46 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Chode
it's called DEESCALATION.....it's not rocket science

De-escalation is not what police are trained to do against active shooters. Quite the opposite in fact. Anybody remember the Columbine shootings? That was a de-escalation. It did not work out very well. A lot of things changed afterwards.

Once the bullets start to fly, the negotiations are done.

42 posted on 08/11/2014 9:29:21 PM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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To: grundle

California’s only hope may be to renew their vigilante committees from the 19th century.
Back then a man using a woman as a human shield, and causing her to suffer and die from ten gunshot wounds, would be decorating a live oak tree as quick as it took to toss a rope over a live oak limb.


43 posted on 08/11/2014 9:31:46 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: flamberge; Chode
This wasn't Columbine.

I see you're a CONFRONT AT ALL COSTS partisan.

One of these days, that mentality is going to cost someone dearly...

44 posted on 08/11/2014 9:33:15 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: flamberge; Chode; Usagi_yo
De-escalation is not what police are trained to do against active shooters. Quite the opposite in fact.

Sounds like you're telling us that police are trained like a pack of coon-hounds.

Only coon-hounds don't get issued guns...

45 posted on 08/11/2014 9:35:42 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: grundle

The media won’t report this because the victim was white and after all, the perp did what Hamas does daily and the media has no issue with that


46 posted on 08/11/2014 9:36:29 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: grundle

Unusual last name. If she worked for Chase, I think I may have talked to her.


47 posted on 08/11/2014 9:38:09 PM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: null and void

Bank of the West.


48 posted on 08/11/2014 9:38:50 PM PDT by bubbacluck (America 180)
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To: ansel12
When was that past?

Late 50's or early 60's.

It's actually pretty uncommon these days. More likely to be noticed when it happens however.

49 posted on 08/11/2014 9:38:58 PM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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To: null and void; Alaska Wolf; DCBryan1; Slings and Arrows; Doomonyou; napscoordinator; Shimmer1; ...
JBT Ping list


50 posted on 08/11/2014 9:42:15 PM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: kiryandil
I see you're a CONFRONT AT ALL COSTS partisan.

No - just reporting how police are really trained. It is not what you think (or wish) that it should be.

Resisting any armed criminal attack is going to cost someone dearly. So is not resisting.

I wish I had an answer to such problems.

51 posted on 08/11/2014 9:48:00 PM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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To: flamberge
It's actually pretty uncommon these days. More likely to be noticed when it happens however.

The only ones crying about it would be the ones who are the greatest beneficiaries of the largesse of the Crimnel Jesters Systum. Can't go around killing their cash cow - the live thug in this case, for instance. Think of all the jobs and cash flowing through the system!

Our forebears knew what to do.

52 posted on 08/11/2014 9:48:47 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: kiryandil

No, I’m saying that the wrong type of people are being drawn to LE these days.


53 posted on 08/11/2014 9:52:42 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (I don't have a soul, I'm a soul that has a body. -- Unknown)
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To: flamberge
No - just reporting how police are really trained. It is not what you think (or wish) that it should be.

More fools they, then. Their reactions can be predicted...

54 posted on 08/11/2014 9:53:43 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: liege

The cops are “pretty sure” they robbed this bank before. Everyone is ABSOLUTELY SURE an innocent woman is dead.

With all that shooting during the chase could not one “well trained” cop shoot out the tires?


55 posted on 08/11/2014 9:54:59 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: Usagi_yo
No, I’m saying that the wrong type of people are being drawn to LE these days.

I won't disagree with that.

56 posted on 08/11/2014 9:55:42 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: Usagi_yo

On the other hand, we have to be careful of confrontational bias on here. I see too many people using this as a News source rather than a discussion forum.

If it isn’t sensational or controversial it’s most likely not to get posted here. I mean who posts stories about Cops that *didn’t* shoot dogs or colored men.

It’s sometimes hard to remember that what we read here is but a microcosm of the worst of the worst so to speak.


57 posted on 08/11/2014 9:59:33 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (I don't have a soul, I'm a soul that has a body. -- Unknown)
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To: null and void

If the hostage had been a cop or a cop’s family member I’m sure they would have been just as quick to shoot.

*snort*


58 posted on 08/11/2014 10:01:07 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Your Daddy Was Drunk and Your Mama Was Lonely" - http://youtu.be/4HYy62qiOwA)
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To: grundle

Three gang member bank robbers, armed to the teeth, including with semi-automatic long guns.

They took three hostages, all women.

They forced one to drive, but when the police started chasing them, they did not like her driving so shot her and pushed her out of the moving car. She survived.

The chase lasted a long time with the perps shooting a lot as they went. At some point they pushed a second woman out of the car. She too survived.

They were finally cornered and came out shooting...a lot. Not a situation you can deescalate when they are actively continuing to lay down heavy gunfire at the officers like that.

Lots of gunfire. One of the gang members pulled this last woman over the top of him as all the gunfire was happening. His two accomplices were killed. The last hostage was killed. The last gang member survived.

People trying to blame the police in this instance need to get the facts before they jump on the jack-boot band wagon. From all I can see that it totally unwarranted.

Like tying to blame Israel when Hamas uses its civilians to launch attacks from behind and they get killed in the cross fire. These officers were involved in a very serious situation that was endangering the community at large...which had to be topped.

The criminals forced this and are to blame...not he police.


59 posted on 08/11/2014 10:04:03 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: grundle

Nice work there, Itchy!


60 posted on 08/11/2014 10:15:48 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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