Posted on 07/21/2014 1:31:21 PM PDT by simka
We do not need Hillary or Warren or any career politician. We do not need another leader in debt to big business, financial backers or his party agenda. We do need someone truly independent of all political pressures, capable of resolving all the damage done to this country. The names that come to mind are Ben Carson, Mitt Romney and maybe Ted Cruz. What say you all?
You have no clue what you’re talking about. Kinda scares me that fake Conservatives such as yourself are so hell bent on selling our Republic down the river. So very sad.
Of course they wouldn't. Unfortunately, mankind abandoned morality in the Garden of Eden.
So, again it seems that your policy is to simply have no laws and leave everything to God.
Best check yourself before you wreck the Founder's vision for America.
Sure, how's this sound:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,
It sometimes seems that libertarians have so convinced themselves that all forms of government are evil and this is clearly NOT what the Founding Fathers intended.
Not true. There are still many of us who try to live a decent, moral lifestyle. I'm not perfect, but I don't need to be told that abortion is bad, thanks entirely to my principles. If gubmint says it's good or bad, makes no difference to me. I know it's wrong.
Please do not go there.
It would behoove you to keep a civil tongue in your punkin head when debating with our respected FReeper, wagglebee.
You may need those crayons, rude one, however wagglebee does not. .
Sniff... sniff... I smell a thunderstorm coming.
Unfortunately, we are ALL flawed and just because some of us can resist certain sins, not everyone has the same morals. Hence the need for laws.
If gubmint says it's good or bad, makes no difference to me. I know it's wrong.
Well, I'm guessing it makes a great deal of difference to the 57 MILLION Americans slaughtered since 1973.
Again, you are doing nothing more than advocating for the preservation of the status quo and that means that the dismemberment of nearly 4000 innocent Americans continues unabated EVERY DAY.
The ONLY thing you have formulated is some pseudo-religious libertarian version of, "I'm personally opposed, but..."
We’ll see. He’s a 14 year FReeper. Jim just politely asked him to “knock it off”. If however, he continues his liberal tirade with Jim....
Then... cue Porky Pig. (Th... th... that’s all Folks)
My pleasure, Sir.
If he doesn’t see the light, he’s going to feel the heat. ;-)
Don’t stay home. That’s how the dimocrats win elections. Walk your block and pass out voter registrations. Who knows, you just may find some fellow Republicans!
Yes, I'm a 14 (almost 15) year veteran of FR, and I love it. I've been around for many milestones, and contributed articles, comments, and cash every time I could, in addition to contributing through my infrequent "musselman marathons". That being said, I love my FRiends, and I love the community, so when Jim tells me to cool my heels, I'll certainly do so.
However, I will say that I am tired of libertarians being bashed, simply because someone thinks libertarian equates with liberal leftist scumbag. Trust me, it does not.
Fact is, I like to tell folks I was a Republican beginning at age 8, when I took my first stab at knocking on doors for R candidates. When I was 8, it was always about that ever important R majority. Of course, when I was 8, we had Reagan.
In 2000, I ran for state office as an (R). I fought hard for W, and continued the fight through the recounts. Sore Loserman, Moose, Cheese, yeah, I've been around for it all.
It wasn't until 2006, after having that ever important (R) majority in the House, Senate & WH that I came to my senses. We had the majority, and out of that, we got the "Patriot" act, ramped up surveillance of American people, no immigration reform, no debt reduction...in plain words, we got NOTHING of what people are saying now that an (R) majority would give us. Forgive me, but I call schaudenfreud (yeah, probably spelled that wrong, but you get the idea). Nothing is going to miraculously change with an (R) majority at this point. Need proof? Boehner, McConnell, et al.
So, my goal is not to offend, but the fact is, I'm going to stand by my libertarian beliefs (yes, I used a small "l", since I don't agree with EVERYTHING the (L)'s stand for), and my beliefs that, just because something is legal, doesn't make it morally right. Likewise, just because something is illegal, doesn't necessarily make it bad.
As Reagan said about the democrat party, I didn't leave the Republican party. They left me. And their continued actions don't leave much faith in me that anything will change, just because we get an (R) majority. In fact, evidence and history shows that we will pretty much head down the same road we're on now.
Appreciate the chance to debate here on FR, Jim. Always have and always will. Likewise, I will always maintain the respect for the moderators/owners.
FR is staunchly pro-God, pro-life, pro-family. Always have been, always will be. We will not back down or surrender to the leftists. Advocates for abortion or “gay rights” are not welcome here. Please post accordingly.
What’s wrong with Ben Carson?
I agree 100%! I do not advocate for abortion or gay marriage. Honestly, I believe it's a sad state of affairs we're in here in America when it comes to these issues. Because of the fact that we have (not us individually, but America as a whole) have turned our backs on God is the exact reason we are here. I believe with every fiber of my being that God, WILL, in fact, mete out punishments for those involved in these horrendous, heinous acts of murder and abomination and I don't believe He will be nice about it. I never once said I advocated for either issue, and I don't plan on starting. I feel like what I said was twisted somewhat, simply to fit the anti-libertarian stereotypes that are rampant among many (R)'s these days. That's a bummer, because the truth is, I'd be just as ready to stand with each and every one of my FRiends, through thick and thin when it comes to taking our Country - our God fearing Country - back.
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Is it so difficult to see where arguing for no laws against something is effectively advocating for it?
Honestly, I believe it's a sad state of affairs we're in here in America when it comes to these issues. Because of the fact that we have (not us individually, but America as a whole) have turned our backs on God is the exact reason we are here.
I agree, but don't you see why we need LAWS to protect the unborn babies who are incapable of protecting themselves?
Being that it would seem to be a state's rights issue, I fail to see how a majority (R) FedGov would be fit to help anything at this point. Yes, I know, Conservative judges would be a start, but that would be the ONLY benefit. As for State laws, yes, sure, pass the law. Then defend it for several years against the Godless heathens, only to watch it go down in flames. We've been there before, plenty of times, yet we keep doing the same thing expecting a different result. Nothing is going to change unless we turn this Nation back to God.
Oh yes, the ever-handy libertarian approach fashioned by the Pauls to insure that abortion goes on unabated by employing the "pro-choice-by-state" approach. They are content in their knowledge that the liberal states that perform the overwhelming majority of abortions would never prohibit it and that nothing could prevent women from going to another state.
Our Republic has already tried the method of each state getting to decide who is and who isn't a person, it was a disaster that almost destroyed us.
If an unborn baby is a person, than they are entitled to full constitutional protection and it doesn't matter what state the mother is in at the time.
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