Better your swimming pool than your kitchen!
Posted on 07/18/2014 11:22:54 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
Ukraine launched an extraordinary attack on Vladimir Putin tonight by publishing a horrific picture of a dead baby and accusing the Russian president of having the blood of the infant victim of flight MH17 on his hands.
Senior government advisor Anton Gerashchenko today stepped up the rhetorical attack on the Kremlin by posting the picture with a message to Mr Putin saying: 'This baby's death is on your conscience', before adding 'Damn you for centuries!'
He said that he agonised over whether to publish the image of the tiny corpse lying in a ploughed field. MailOnline has chosen not to publish the photograph because it is too upsetting.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Better your swimming pool than your kitchen!
“...damn you to hell for centuries...” doesn’t begin to cover what awaits the Putins, Herods, Obungas, Clintons, Hitlers, Ahmadinajabs, Pelosis, Alreds, Blackmuns, et al of this world. Neither does “ages” or “eons”. I have no means of emphasizing it enough. ETERNITY has NO END.....EVER!
Merely making the authors’ condemnation more appropriate to another equally disturbing act of treachery here in this country. I think most people know that damnation is forever.
So you say they knew it was commercial airliner and shot it down. I guess based on some pretense to psychic powers.
So... hows the rest of the theory go. How did it benefit them? What was the motivation to kill uninvolved third party?
Actually, you are wrong.
There is what can be called irrational exuberance, the giddiness that allows people to act with no thought. There was success shooting down a transport. That is a precedent. the other plane is another transport. Precedent says it must be shot down.
In the absence of a command structure the giddiness takes control and the trigger is pulled with no thought...... that’s what we did before. we’ll do it again
No, I said:
"There was no accident here. These pigs intentionally shot down that plane. And, when they did intentionally shoot down that plane, they did not have any reason to believe that it was a military transport plane. These pigs just didn't care."
I am not claiming that these pigs were competent enough to know what they were doing. I acknowledge that they were jerks. And, I acknowledge that Putin probably didn't want a commercial airliner shot down. He's just incompetent and he incompetently left dangerous missiles in the hands of other incompetent jerks. Isn't that obvious by now?
Putin has always been incompetent. He's screwing up his little project in the Ukraine just as he has screwed up his country's economy for more than a decade. He's a jerk who's bound to lose in the end, but in the meantime, his incompetence is going to cause a lot of innocent people, including children and infants, to lose their lives.
I don't disagree with that. I just think that it is incompetent to provide these kinds of missiles to incompetent jerks who lack a command structure. It just underlines the fact that Putin is incompetent. But, anyone who's been to Russia and has experienced the economy that Putin has created knows that Putin is incompetent. He's in way over his head. He'll screw things up in the Ukraine just as he has screwed things up in Russia.
It was deliberate. That launcher also has the systems to monitor and identify civilian aircraft. Either they turned it off, it was damaged, or they disregarded it. The aircraft was not flying in a protected no-fly zone. It was deliberate.
As for your reference to the Iranian airliner, you would be best advised to educate yourself before making ANY inferences
Iran Air Flight 655 (July 3, 1988)
An August 1988 report from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff called the shoot-down of an Iranian civilian airliner over the Persian Gulf by a U.S. guided missile cruiser “a tragic and regrettable accident,” adding, “[A]s is so often the case in a combat environment, there were a number of contributing factors.”
Those factors included the 1987 attack on the USS Stark during the Iran-Iraq War, by an Iraqi fighter jet whose pilot — reportedly mistaking the U.S. warship for an Iranian oil tanker — fired Exocet missiles at the Stark off the coast of Saudi Arabia, near the war zone. Thirty-seven American crew members were killed.
Other tensions in the waters off Iran, as well as reports of Iranian attempts to improve their ability to attack American ships, led to a change in the rules of engagement with perceived or possible threats to U.S. assets. The day before the Iran Air incident, on July 2, the USS Halsey warned away a potentially threatening Iranian F-14.
On July 3, the USS Vincennes and the frigate USS Montgomery were engaging several small Iranian boats challenging a Pakistani merchant ship.
At the same time, Iran Air Flight 655, an Airbus A300 B2-203, took off from a joint civilian/military air field in Bandar Abbas, destination Dubai. There were 290 people on board, including 16 crewmembers.
Bandar Abbas was the same air field from which Iranian F-4s were launched in support of attacks on U.S. Naval forces in April.
“It is hard to overemphasize the fact that Bandar Abbas is also a military airfield,” the Joint Chiefs of Staff report said. “The Air Bus was probably not informed of the surface action taking place in the Strait. Informed or not, Flight 655 logically appeared to have a direct relationship to the ongoing surface engagement.”
The Vincennes was tracking an Iranian P-3 military aircraft, flying approximately 60 nautical miles northwest, when it saw the unidentified aircraft, flying within a known commercial air corridor, with a transponder signal that appeared to identify the craft as an F-14. It did not respond to radio warnings.
With the plane’s distance at nine miles and coming closer, descending to an altitude of 13,000 feet, it was deemed a threat to the Vincennes. Surface-to-air missiles were fired.
The 290 victims included Iranian nationals as well as citizens of the United Arab Emirates, India, Pakistan, Yugoslavia and Italy.
The Joint Chiefs Chairman’s report states, “I believe that the actions of Iran were the proximate cause of this accident and would argue that Iran must bear the principal responsibility for the tragedy. . . . It was especially reprehensible to allow an airliner to take off from a joint ‘military/civilian’ airfield and fly directly into the midst of a gunfight. As for the aircraft itself, its failure not to monitor the international air distress net and not to respond to challenges was significantly negligent.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/past-commercial-airliners-shot-down-by-military-rebels/
Providing the missiles to the separatists has clearly been shown as a blunder.
What exactly does anyone in Russia or among the Ukrainian rebels have to gain by shooting down a Malaysian passenger jet filled with mostly Dutch passengers?
It should be obvious with the number of Ukrainian military aircraft that have been shot down by the Russian mercenaries, the latest incident was a deliberate shoot down with unintended consequences. Their posts on the internet, now deleted, show they thought it was a military transport. Once they checked the debris at the crash site, it was obvious it was civilian and they reported to their controller that there was no military material.
Nothing.
This event just demonstrates the incompetence of Putin and his cronies. It is just plain stupid to leave weapons like these in the hands of people who don't know what they're doing and who don't care enough about the lives of innocent people to find out exactly what they are doing before intentionally shooting down what might be (and, in fact, was) a commercial jet.
There isn't any excuse or justification for any of this. Putin is just incompetent.
ok thank you.
So it sounds similar to what the U.S. has been doing all over the world over the last few decades.
Well, you can be as critical as you want about our country “over the last few decades,” but right now we’re dealing with Putin’s incompetence. I know that there are some folks who seem to admire him, but for the life of me I can’t figure out why. Maybe it’s just a bunch of queers who get excited when any guy takes his shirt off in public. It’s a strange phenomenon because Putin is particularly incompetent. All those photo-ops are Putin’s way of trying to cover that up. Gaddafi used to prance around on horseback, too. Same ploy.
Sorry, dude — but I just burst out laughing at the notion of anyone here in the U.S. criticizing a foreign leader for “incompetence.” LMAO.
More effective (still sum zero) to send photos of 80 million or so aborted fetuses to abortion butchers and the Leftists who support them.
You have NO idea whether this aircraft was shot down because it was misidentified or intentionally shot down knowingly. None. Stop pretending that you do.
There is no question that they intentionally shot down that plane. It is simply inconceivable that they accidentally fired a rocket and it just happened to hit a plane. That plane was shot down because they wanted that plane to be shot down.
Disregard my last. You have addressed it in subsequent posts. But your original post stated your opinion unclearly leading to the responses you received.
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