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Kasich, Portman to get spotlight at Cleveland GOP convention (Its RINO time!)
The Columbus Dispatch ^ | 7/14/2014 | Jack Torry & Jessica Wehrman

Posted on 07/14/2014 12:07:47 PM PDT by Viennacon

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To: Viennacon

Well - I could see where one or the other was invited to speak just because it’s in their state. Kasich has done ok though not as much as was done in WI. Portman - meh.


21 posted on 07/14/2014 12:40:17 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: BillyBoy; All
The GOP doesn't win elections ....

Period. WHY? Because the GOP, with my ignorant help by voting straight party ticket over the last few decades, has devolved into a knock-off cheaper brand of Democrat. Americans are WISE to this. Instead of participating in an increasingly ridiculous charade, they stay home and say, "Screw that."

We need a Second party. I have been voting straight Republican for decades. I ain't no spring chicken; instead I'm a little sadder and wiser. The Republican party gives me virtually ZILCH to vote for, and expects me to fall for the fantasy that I get to vote "against" the other guy.

When I was a spring chicken, I believed in voting "against." I've figured a few things out over the years, and one of them is that you ONLY get to vote FOR; anybody who wants you to vote for someone because it is "the same as voting against" the bad guy, is feather-brained -- maybe well-meaning and sincere, but feather-brained just the same.

You only get to vote FOR, or you don't vote at all. IT IS BINARY, 0, or 1. So the ONLY thing that counts is what you vote FOR. Ignoring that physical, material reality is HOW the GOP became the Democrat Lite party that it is today. You can ignore reality all you want -- but it won't ignore you!

22 posted on 07/14/2014 12:50:27 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: vmivol00

Right...that’s why Romney picked Portman to help him with his debating techniques.

The Plaid Pants Wing of the GOP sticks together.


23 posted on 07/14/2014 12:54:17 PM PDT by bimboeruption (REMEMBER MISSISSIPPI!)
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To: Finny

Oh Finny - don’t waste your intellect on voting based on principle.

The majority of voters don’t perform ‘due diligence’ on their public servants - they probably do more comparison shopping for hamburger meat.

I’m going with this ‘very sound’ science:

Of 44 Presidential last names -

16 ended with the letter ‘N’.
23 had 2 syllables.

Obviously - it will be either Clinton or Portman;)


24 posted on 07/14/2014 1:00:58 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: Catsrus; BillyBoy; brownsfan; suijuris

Just wait until Ohio taxpayers start having to pay the cost of Medicaid expansion...thanks to that “great executive” Kasich.

http://www.redstate.com/2014/03/24/gov-john-kasich-obamacare-medicaid-expansion-conservative/

And he bypassed the State legislature’s vote against it, to do it.

Kasich is as slimy as any Democrat.


25 posted on 07/14/2014 1:02:36 PM PDT by bimboeruption (REMEMBER MISSISSIPPI!)
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To: brownsfan
Kasich has done a good job in OH

huh??? He put in place that expanded Medicaid in spite of the votes of the legislature. That's because his buddies that profit off the big medical providers told him to. He gave extra money to the Cleveland school system like they don't waste enough already. Under Kasich, smaller communities have suffered while cities and construction interest do just fine for getting money, even though a lot is wasted.

He stands a real good chance of losing the governorship. He's a big business guy that provides no inspiration for following a conservative path.

And Portman? He's staying quiet and out of the limelight so maybe people won't realize he's a total RINO when the ptb are looking for 'their" candidate.

26 posted on 07/14/2014 1:04:52 PM PDT by grania
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To: grania

AMEN FRiend...You know a RINO when you see one.


27 posted on 07/14/2014 1:07:48 PM PDT by bimboeruption (REMEMBER MISSISSIPPI!)
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To: sodpoodle
LOL! Good one, FRiend!

Seriously, though, it is misguided to describe my thinking as "voting on principle."

I used to vote on principle -- the principle that the Republican was bound to be better than the Democrat, the principle that Republicans represent the philosophy of LIMITED GOVERNMENT in direct opposition to the Democrat philosophy of EXPANDED GOVERNMENT.

I also used to vote on the principle that voting for the Republican was equivalent to voting "against" the Democrat.

I have finally figured out, "principles" be damned, MATH is the only thing that counts.

MATHEMATICALLY, if I vote for a Republican who will implement part or all of the leftist agenda if he/she wins, mathematically and materially I voted FOR moving things left, though I voted "in principle" to move things right.

That the majority don't perform due diligence is human nature and to be expected; it is freedom loving Americans' duty to inform our friends and fellow Americans as best we can, where and when we can.

HOWEVER, it is quite clear that most Americans recognize a charade when they see one -- they did enough due diligence to recognize that the dif between Obama and Romney was so minor as to make "choosing" a waste of time in 2012, as it would make no appreciable dif in the long run as to which one won.

I make it a point to read the comments at MSM news sites, especially ones in liberal cities like Los Angeles. I've being doing it for years, exploring American territory where the MSM (and the vast majority of FReepers) fear to tread.

My informed point of view is that American voters are a heck of a lot smarter (and a whole lot angrier at leftism, Obama, and MSM bias) than most conservatives give them credit for, and that liberals/leftists are the minority in America. If they weren't, they wouldn't have to CHEAT.

28 posted on 07/14/2014 1:28:39 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Viennacon

“Sen. Rob Portman ... Gov. John Kasich ... the Republican convention in Cleveland will give both a chance to enhance their national profile.”

Well, I can see how this is shaping up. Who else will share the limelight, Christie Todd Whitman or Susan Collins?


29 posted on 07/14/2014 1:37:59 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Catsrus
Can you tell me something Kasich has done to "put our state in a good financial situation"?

It has always occurred to me that a "good financial situation" can only come about by free markets. Free markets need to have a predictable system of laws. Free markets do better with lower taxes.

Kasich has pushed for controlled and managed markets by advocating his unconstitutional "Jobs Ohio" plan where the state of Ohio, with all of the force of law behind it, takes tax payer dollars to invest in private companies. This what they do in China not in free markets.

How about when (like Obama)he unilaterally pushed through Medicaid expansion against the vote of the legislature?

How about when he advocated hiking taxes on oil and gas drilling? Was that good for free markets or the economy of Ohio?

Kasich is far worse than a "moderate". He is an extreme statist to rival even Obama himself. He believes that government can solve our problems and the more power it has, the more effective it can be.

30 posted on 07/14/2014 2:10:39 PM PDT by nitzy
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To: nitzy

I certainly wouldn’t equate him with obama - that’s not fair - even to Kasich. However, the alternative to his gubernatorial seat is worse. So, those are our choices. I certainly wasn’t happy that he caved on the Medicaid expansion - bypassing the legislature - however, this isn’t over yet. To be honest, I think he did it to appease the left. hoping to gain their votes this election. Make no mistake about it- he is a politician just as much as any other - but, he has put Ohio on a good financial road. You are entitled to your opinions, just as I am. I’m not planning to vote in November, so my opinion or viewpoint doesn’t really matter. We can’t seem to get good governors here in Ohio - thanks to the union strongholds.


31 posted on 07/14/2014 3:02:52 PM PDT by Catsrus (A)
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To: brownsfan
Kasich is more of an old school Democrat. Portman is a poster boy for GOPe, useless and only concerned with self interest.

True dat!

32 posted on 07/14/2014 4:04:33 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: Kahuna

I was hoping it would be Natalie Portman. At least she is easy on the eyes.


33 posted on 07/14/2014 4:05:57 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: Kahuna
>> Portman is as boring as they come. He may be a good man <<

Portman is certainly NOT a "good man". If his son was a crack addict, would his position that crack is bad "evolve"? It seems so.

34 posted on 07/14/2014 4:39:38 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: Viennacon; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican
>> How about a convention in Texas. <<

We had one there in 1992. We lost to Slick Willie.

35 posted on 07/14/2014 4:44:51 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: Viennacon; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; Dilbert San Diego
I understand that, but I am noticing this trend, where the House Speaker is from California and such. How about a convention in Texas.

First of all there's no comparing Cali and Ohio. Ohio is not a "blue" state as you said.

And really, enough of this "The (Majority Leader) is from Cali" so let's bash him that reason nonsense. Cali has more Republicans than any other state, including Texas, it just so happens that Cali also has more rats than any other state. I don't think many people would have a problem if Tom McClintock were Speaker or Majority Leader. Anything wrong with McCarthy has nothing to do with where he's from.

The Speaker of the Texas House is from Texas, and he's a worse leader than Boehner. Would anybody here like Pete Sessions to be the Speaker? Would anyone pick him over McClintock or Steve King because he's from a "Republican state"?

Anyway about the convention, I think it's much ado about nothing, where it's held doesn't seem to matter very much. Cleveland is a once proud city that's turned to crap under decades of rat rule. That's a good theme for the convo if you ask me.

36 posted on 07/14/2014 5:00:49 PM PDT by Impy (Think for yourself)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Forgot to ping you to #36


37 posted on 07/14/2014 5:18:21 PM PDT by Impy (Think for yourself)
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To: Viennacon

DEFEAT PORTMAN !


38 posted on 07/15/2014 2:16:57 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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