Posted on 07/12/2014 3:51:22 AM PDT by daniel1212
The Jerusalem District Court has ordered Moshav Yad Hashmonah, a community of Messianic Jews and Evangelical Christians, to pay compensation to two lesbians after it refused to host a same-sex wedding reception. "We knew we were breaking the law. Somebody needed to do it." says Ayelet Ronen, general secretary for the village.
Judge Moshe Yoad Cohen upheld a lower court ruling that the Moshav violated a law prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation.
During the trial, representatives of the Moshav quoted from both Old and New Testaments. "We do not hate homosexuals or lesbians. We love them. We simply told the court that it is God's word in the Bible that calls homosexuality an abomination," Ronen told Israel Today.
She continues: "As a faith-based community we need to be able to refuse events that blatantly oppose our religious beliefs. We explained to the judge that a same-sex celebration would ruin our business. The majority of our clientele are Christians who vigorously oppose gay marriage."
The lesbians' lawyer accused members of Yad Hashmonah of "homophobia," pointing to an announcement published by the Moshav that "no homosexual or lesbian organization will be allowed to rent space for functions on our premises."
That announcement came in response to a flood of requests for same-sex celebrations on the Moshav from gays and lesbians hoping to pass more court decisions requiring the Messianic community to pay out huge compensations.
As a result, the Moshav was forced to shutter their events-hosting business, resulting in huge financial losses. "We used to host an average of 35-50 weddings a year over the past 12 years. Israelis from all over the country, religious and secular, loved to come here. Now there are none," says Ronen.
Judge Cohen held that the Moshav cannot refuse to host a same-sex wedding reception even if doing so goes against their own conscious. The Moshav's lawyer, Michael Decker, challenged that ruling, asking the judge, "What if a Catholic went to an Orthodox Jewish carpentry in [the ultra-Orthodox town of] Bnei Barack and asked them to build a statue of Mary? Would they have to build the idolatrous image?"
The judge replied: "They would have to make it or else be fined. That is the law."
Ronen says that the ruling demonstrates that "even the judge understood that current laws are not providing sufficient protections for religious communities."
According to Ronen, "a lot of religious Jews and rabbis have secretly told us 'good for you. We are glad that you take this stand.' But they will not stand with [Messianic Jews] to change the law. They hate us too much and would never work with us."
In his ruling, the judge upheld the earlier verdict of the Jerusalem Magistrate's Court, ordering Yad Hashmonah to pay the two lesbians damages of 60,000 shekels ($17,000) plus another 30,000 shekels for attorneys' fees for both the original suit and the appeal. "At this time we are not planning another appeal. To lose again would not sound good," says Ronen.
Now I begin to understand why at the end of Armageddon only a remnant of Israel’s Jewish population will be left alive. Her sinful people will be destroyed!
Daniel, I wonder how long it will be before your post #20 in this thread is actually deemed a violation of US law. I do not believe it is that far in the future. I think there’s a thread right here in FR today about a move in the Senate to outlaw religious speech that criticizes homosexuality.
Things are bad, and they are on the brink of getting much worse.
Which is the outworking of the victim entitlement mentality which is from Hell, which began with the devil assuming he was entitled to receive Divine power and worship (share the wealth), and seduced Eve thing likewise, as a victim of a selfish God.
But who needs nothing, and requires that our allegiance and our highest affection to be upon Him who alone is perfect, almighty, eternal and only wise, and can never fail, rather than something created.
Adopting the victim entitlement mentality, you have sodomite strategies and psychological tactics
While not all homosexuals agree with the use of deceptive psychological tactics, these have been promoted by leading homosexual activists. The aforementioned book, After the Ball, is widely regarded as the handbook for the gay agenda, in which two Harvard-trained (homosexual) psychologists [47] Marshall Kirk (1957 - 2005) and Hunter Madsen (pen name Erastes Pill, who was also schooled in social marketing) advocated avoiding portraying gays as aggressive challengers, but as victims instead, while making all those who opposed them to be evil persecutors. As a means of the latter, they promoted jamming, in which Christians, traditionalists, or anyone else who opposes the gay agenda are publicly smeared. Their strategy was based on the premise that, "In any campaign to win over the public, gays must be portrayed as victims in need of protection so that straights will be inclined by reflex to adopt the role of protector. The purpose of victim imagery is to make straight people feel very uncomfortable."
"Jamming" homo-hatred (disagreement with homosexual behaviors) was to be done by linking it to Nazi horror, advised Kirk and Madsen. Associate all who oppose homosexuality with images of Klansmen demanding that gays be slaughtered, hysterical backwoods preachers, menacing punks, and a tour of Nazi concentration camps where homosexuals were tortured and gassed. Thus, "propagandistic advertisement can depict homophobic and homohating bigots as crude loudmouths..."[48][49]
Interesting posts. Thanks.
According to Ronen, “a lot of religious Jews and rabbis have secretly told us ‘good for you. We are glad that you take this stand.’ But they will not stand with [Messianic Jews] to change the law. They hate us too much and would never work with us.”
The Orthodox rabbis have to realize that they too have to perform them per the Jerusalem court. I think the real reason for their silence is because much of the religious community take a lot of money from the government to study Torah and they can’t bite the hand that feed them.
They had better unite now and fight this or else face even more problems in the future.
Consistently wrong, then. Private businesses should be able to operate however they want as long as they don’t break the law. Refusing to serve someone is not breaking any law.
These are purposeful targetings by homosexual activists, usually to target Christian believers. I wonder if the lesbians dare ask a Moslem organization to host such a thing?
The homosexualist and abortion operations in Israel must have slowed down just a little bit with the call-up of 40,000+ reservists.
“Things are bad, and they are on the brink of getting much worse” You are a prophet! Mark 13:5-13
I am no prophet, just stating the obvious.
In the book of Zechariah 13: 8-9 tells us that two-thirds of Israel (the Jewish people) will perish in the Tribulation. That only one-third will come through the fire. Scripture makes it plain that the Jews are going to pay dearly in the Trib. The LORD will protect the one-third “in the mountains” (most Bible scholars believe that will be near Petra). The Jews are digging this two-thirds hole for themselves. These unrepentant homosexuals are going to be among those that die in the Tribulation. And it is coming. Scripture is clear about the coming End of Time and it reads like today’s headlines and news casts. The Trib and those days are getting very, very close. The LORD’s return is near. Make sure you are on board with Him, not satan. Actually, there are only two camps according to the LORD. You are for HIM, or you are for sin. Sin is following satan. So you are for the LORD or for satan. There is no middle ground. No matter how you bend it, no middle ground.
For me, Revelation prophecy is difficult to piece together and understand, but it seems to be coming together fairly quickly in our time.
Only a few years ago I saw the US as one of the good guys and the Biblical story's ending something for the distant future.
But after just a few years of life in the obamanation, all is upside down and the Biblical story is about the only thing that explains the world I now wake up in.
Interesting times, huh?
The abomination of desolation cometh.
“As in the days of Noah” Prophecy again is being fulfilled. We know the end is coming soon. When homosexuality has more rights over God Fearing people, the end is near
Our youngest son and daughter-in-law were married there. This is a humble place, so I don’t know how they are going to come up with this kind of money. This lesbian group knew that and knew it would wreck them financially. It is a shame.
Apparently one of the best-kept secrets among many conservatives here in the U.S. is that Israel isn’t a religious country at all. It’s a modern, secular country modeled after a parliamentary socialist government of Europe. Israel is no more Jewish than France is Catholic.
Messianic Jew = Christian.
10 million rockets a day fired from Gaza and southern Lebanon couldn’t do the damage to Israel that Israel is doing to itself.
Leviticus 18:
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
24 Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.
26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:
27 (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;)
28 That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.
The muzzlemen may get Israel back if this keeps up.
I never thought I’d see the day when I looked at the Ayatollah Khomenei’s description of the U.S. as “the Great Satan” and decided that his assessment is probably correct.
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