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The real reason gun control is failing
The Guardian ^ | July 8, 2014 | Ana Marie Cox

Posted on 07/09/2014 12:00:51 AM PDT by Innovative

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To: Irenic

That’s the most idiotic (not to mention naive) post I’ve ever read on FR....
Congrats!


41 posted on 07/09/2014 5:09:12 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
“.... there is no such thing as a neutral gun. Guns have one purpose: to kill things.”...

Guess the writer never heard of the “triathlon”, target shooting, etc. Do you're home work before you write such an article.

42 posted on 07/09/2014 5:13:18 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Innovative

If a gun is not an object, then if set on a table and left to it’s own devices, the gun should leap up unassisted to perpetrate evil, right?


43 posted on 07/09/2014 5:13:51 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Irenic

Shoot to stop. That may be achieved by killing, but the goal is to stop an attack. When the threat ceases, you cease shooting.

The problem with “shoot to kill” is that becomes your goal ... and if the attack stops and the threat ends but the assailant is still alive, your preset auto-pilot goal will be to continue until he’s dead - and that’s murder.


44 posted on 07/09/2014 5:23:36 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Obama, setting RoE with his opposition)
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To: ctdonath2

Wounding allows retribution


45 posted on 07/09/2014 5:24:40 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Innovative

Gun control fails because Americans know if they lose their guns, they will be digging their own mass graves with government lackeys waiting to pull the trigger behind them.


46 posted on 07/09/2014 5:26:14 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: DaveA37

Or clay pigeon shooting, or stress relief, just plain fun.

Author is a moron....


47 posted on 07/09/2014 5:27:57 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: Innovative

A weapon is the primary tool needed to guarantee liberty and preserve the Republic; without a weapon you are required do whatever the dictator says.


48 posted on 07/09/2014 5:32:21 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Unarmed people cannot defend themselves. America is no longer a Free Country.)
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To: Innovative
If this were true, there would only one more hunting season anywhere in the United States, because everywhere the hunters congregated would be turned into a bullet pocked, burned over wasteland, utterly devastated by previously innocent men and women, who'd been driven mad by the eeevil guns they carried. Indeed, the areas around gun stores and shooting ranges would have been long ago depopulated due to the mass shootings caused by those same guns.
49 posted on 07/09/2014 5:47:03 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Innovative
It’s failing because 99% of the 120 Million gun owners in the country are innocent law abiding folks who only want to be able to have their Commonsense Civil Right of Armed Self-Defense.

It’s failing because while the hoplophobes pretend to be real upset over guns, they don’t care about Criminal and Government guns.

It’s failing because the gun gabber’s propaganda is based on lies and falsehoods and as such we don’t trust them when they say we don’t want to Confiscate guns.

Meh, I could do this all day….

It’s failing because it should be plainly obvious that the precursor to Confiscation – registration won’t do jack sh… to supposedly solve the ‘gun violence’ problem.

It’s failing because innocent gun owners see through gun grabber frauds like the “Assault Weapon” Scam and the “High capacity” magazine swindle.

In short, It’s failing because WE DON’T TRUST people who are PROVEN LIARS. when they say 'we don't want to take your means of self-defense away

[I’m looking right at you Obama]
I will not take your shotgun away, I will not take your rifle away, I won't take your handgun away.”</em>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9LshCv0SAXE

36 Times Obama Said You Could Keep Your Health Care Plan</strong>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qpa-5JdCnmo

50 posted on 07/09/2014 5:57:42 AM PDT by HammerT (The Right to keep and bear arms: A Commonsense Civil Right)
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To: servo1969; All
Gun control is practically a religion for some. They believe guns are evil, truly evil with intent and purpose. You can not reason with such people. You can only defeat them.

Astoundingly, the entire quote from which you lifted only one line even more clearly shows this insane, quasi-religious attitude, FTA:

Guns are not objects, and I doubt we can change the way our country deals with them by thinking of guns as merely potentially dangerous things that need to be regulated, no different than unstable chemicals or cold medicines. Guns are death waiting to happen, and Everytown's survey is a quaint eulogy for those who have already passed.

Indeed, that's why this article doesn't deserve a barf alert, because it so clearly discloses the fundamental, insane premise that drives many gun grabbers.

51 posted on 07/09/2014 6:06:06 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Old Yeller

“Gun control fails because Americans know if they lose their guns, they will be digging their own mass graves with government lackeys waiting to pull the trigger behind them.”

Two points-
1- Gun violence (excluding suicide) is largely a minority problem. The statistics are clear that the vast majority (~ 90%) of killings in large cities are by blacks or hispanics.

2- Given the nature, attitudes, and actions of the current govt, gun ownership by citizens to preserve their liberty has NEVER been more necessary except during the 1700s. People recognize that and have been acting accordingly.


52 posted on 07/09/2014 6:13:31 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Innovative
Guns have one purpose: to kill things. They are no more neutral than a poison.

Right. Just like barbed wire has one purpose: to corral Jews in extermination camps. It is no more neutral than poison.

This is Moonbattery on display at it's finest!

53 posted on 07/09/2014 6:23:47 AM PDT by Gritty (Obama's governing as president of a Latin American republic, where only the president matters-MSteyn)
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To: Irenic

20 years ago I used a gun for convincing some young drug dealers that they should not sell their wares to subteens on the churchyard at night. Calling the police would have availed nothing. Sweet reason ditto. A revolver pointed at the head of the fellow in the car selling the crack with an explanation that I would not call the cops if I saw him there again was convincing.


54 posted on 07/09/2014 6:25:53 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Innovative
Guns have one purpose: to kill things

With this rationale, all nuclear devices should be detonated.

Guns have many purposes. Deterrence is the main purpose.

55 posted on 07/09/2014 7:05:30 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (As long as America's tolerence of failure is not overwhelmed by a desire to succeed, we will fail.)
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To: Innovative
If it weren't for guns, the Guardian would be written in German. And there would be no Jews around to read it.
56 posted on 07/09/2014 9:45:57 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Book: Resistance to Tyranny. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: bert

Mitigating possible retribution via murder is not legal. Coup de grace shots have no place in mundane self defense.


57 posted on 07/09/2014 10:49:55 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Obama, setting RoE with his opposition)
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To: Innovative

The right to a gun is the right to lethal force. Anyone wanting to take that away from you is someone who wants to use it against you. Period.


58 posted on 07/09/2014 11:55:59 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Only1choice____Freedom
Deterrence is the main purpose.

It is only a deterrent because it represents the ability to kill. As long as you have one you posses that ability. Separate from the ability to kill it has little ability to deter
59 posted on 07/09/2014 11:58:22 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Innovative
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Guns are not objects..."

Uhm...ya. I guess it's nice that they letting people with room temperature IQ's write articles.

60 posted on 08/01/2014 7:45:19 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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