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USDA v. Horne [SCOTUS rules 9-0 against Obama seizing food from farmers]
Reason ^ | July 18, 2013 | Zach Weissmueller

Posted on 07/07/2014 11:47:30 AM PDT by grundle

"They want us to pay for our own raisins that we grew," says Raisin Valley Farms owner Marvin Horne. "We have to buy them back!"

This is but one absurdity that Marvin and his wife Laura have faced during their decade-long legal battle with the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA). Every year, the Hornes plant seeds, tie vines, harvest fruit, and place grapes in paper trays to create sun-dried raisins. And every year, the federal government prevents them from bringing their full harvest to market.

It's called an agriculture marketing order. Depression-era regulations meant to stabilize crop prices endanger the livelihoods of small farmers across the country, but the raisin marketing order is particularly egregious. An elected board of bureaucrats known as the Raisin Administrative Committee decides what the proper yield should be in any given year in order to meet a previously decided-upon price. Once they can estimate the size of the year's harvest, they force every farmer to surrender a percentage of their crop...

The tipping point came in 2003, when farmers received zero dollars in return for the 47 percent of the crop they had surrendered.

Luckily for the Hornes, however, the Supreme Court took the case and ruled, in a 9-0 decision

(Excerpt) Read more at reason.com ...


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KEYWORDS: agdept; farmers; obama; propertyrights; scotus; usda
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To: Soul of the South

we have so many laws they can’t do that

It is pretty absurd


21 posted on 07/07/2014 12:11:27 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: oldbrowser

I’ve been stating for some time now, especially since dealing with the tyranny of a local government,

that without individual consequences for the bureaucrats who are harming the citizenry,

their tyranny will not be stopped.


22 posted on 07/07/2014 12:15:10 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Sherman Logan
FWIW, there's very little that can be blamed just on Obama, and most people on FR don't think that. Education interference goes back to George 1. Manipulation of foreign governments has been a constant since George 1. And the things that are very wrong now? Most (immigration, creating situations where terrorists thrive, the out of control NSA, the debt) were started with GWB, put on steroids by Obama.

I blame us....the constitutional conservatives.....for voting for the "lesser of two evils" throughout these decades, rather than demanding quality candidates who support the US and our constitution.

23 posted on 07/07/2014 12:17:06 PM PDT by grania
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To: Sherman Logan

You’re right. There are plenty of stupid Fed Gov policies that precede the Obama admin.


24 posted on 07/07/2014 12:17:46 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: grundle

I worked in a Del Monte peach cannery in California while going to college. We had FDA “inspectors” in-house monitoring what was called “diversion.” They made sure that we threw away a certain percentage of the fruit going through the plant, literally tons of perfectly good peaches. They oversaw the weighing, logging of the weights and the disposal. The rationale was that by so doing, we kept the price of peaches “high.”
BTW, the cannery is long gone, replaced by the PIXAR Studios. Workforce was mostly Black. Guess their progeny are all on welfare now.


25 posted on 07/07/2014 12:17:48 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: grundle

Agri-Nazis telling business owners what they can/cannot do. Have these govt agencies suddenly gone moonbatsh#t crazy or has it always been this bad? It seems worse lately, and I think the O regime has made them bolder than ever.


26 posted on 07/07/2014 12:18:20 PM PDT by Mich Patriot (Pitch black is the new "transparent.")
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To: RJS1950

bump

I bet most people wouldn’t believe it either.


27 posted on 07/07/2014 12:18:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

The left ignores laws they don’t like unless they are physically stopped.


28 posted on 07/07/2014 12:18:26 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: vette6387

I’m noticing that as a pattern of leftist societal evolution. If there is a way to force people into dependence, they’ll impose that.

Payday loan to get you through, or go on welfare.
Gov’t chooses to put payday loans out of business, leaving people with welfare.


29 posted on 07/07/2014 12:20:37 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: DJ Frisat

“What’s troubling about all of this is that there should be MANY OTHER decisions that came in 5-4 that should have also been 9-0.”

Yeah, that’s true, but consider that even the Loony Leftists (that would be The Wise Latina, The old Yenta and the Fat Yenta) are even alarmed at what FUBO is up to.


30 posted on 07/07/2014 12:20:37 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Mich Patriot

It started under FDR, we have had Soviet-style agricultural policies since then.

The Egg Board, Peanut growing licenses etc etc


31 posted on 07/07/2014 12:20:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: vette6387

I remember the worst decisions from the Warren Court were 5-4 and were applauded by the media as ‘courageous’.


32 posted on 07/07/2014 12:22:22 PM PDT by AU72
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To: MrB

“Payday loan to get you through, or go on welfare.
Gov’t chooses to put payday loans out of business, leaving people with welfare.”

I am sort of ambivalent here. As you point out, the government is trying to put their “competition” out of business, but in the case of payday loans, they are putting loan sharks out of business. Now if they would only go get “Colonial Penn Life Insurance.” They are insurance sharks.


33 posted on 07/07/2014 12:23:36 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: RJS1950
FDR and his minions did more to deepen the depression than anybody imagines.

Absolutely right. First they caused it, then blamed capitalism, then used it as an excuse to install more government. What could possibly go wrong?

34 posted on 07/07/2014 12:26:56 PM PDT by Mich Patriot (Pitch black is the new "transparent.")
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To: vette6387

I guess they should pawn shops out of business too?

I fail to see the problem with the “payday loan”. Someone needs some cash and gets a loan and pays it back plus a bit more when they get paid. Simple.

Banks did the same thing.

Unfortunately my brother-in-law can no longer get those Direct Deposit Loans (up to $500 for an extra $35) because of new federal regulations.

Ridiculous.


35 posted on 07/07/2014 12:27:58 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Sherman Logan

Since it dates back to the Great Depression, I think we can safely blame Franky Roosevelt and his merry band of socialist.


36 posted on 07/07/2014 12:29:16 PM PDT by Busywhiskers ("Once you have wrestled, everything else in life is easy" -Dan Gable)
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To: AU72

“I remember the worst decisions from the Warren Court were 5-4 and were applauded by the media as ‘courageous’.”

Never before (until now with Roberts) as a man been appointed to the SCOTUS who did the 180 that Warren did. He was a conservative governor here in CA, but the minute he hit the SCOTUS, off came his cloak. I guess like Obama is trying to wrest the “Worst President Ever” from Jimmah Cahatah, so too is Roberts trying to take Earl Warren’s “worst ever mantle.”


37 posted on 07/07/2014 12:29:53 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: GeronL

“I fail to see the problem with the “payday loan”. Someone needs some cash and gets a loan and pays it back plus a bit more when they get paid. Simple.”

Well the “only problem” is that their rates barely skirt usury laws. They steal from those most unable to stay away from their clutches. But then so does the government.


38 posted on 07/07/2014 12:32:02 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Busywhiskers

We can’t ban every President and Congress since then??


39 posted on 07/07/2014 12:32:34 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: vette6387

Funny you reference “loan sharks”, because that’s where the payday loan customers have to go for the same service.

The difference being that the payday lenders send you to collections, and loan sharks send you to the hospital.


40 posted on 07/07/2014 12:32:59 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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