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Work: A Job Americans Won’t Do? Why double immigration when so many people already aren’t working?
National Review ^ | 06/27/2014 | Steven Camarota

Posted on 06/27/2014 7:38:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Today is the first anniversary of the Senate’s passage of the Gang of Eight immigration bill (S.744). So it is fitting to remember just how out of touch that bill was with what is actually going on in the U.S. labor market. The labor-force participation of working-age native-born Americans (ages 16 to 65) is at a record low, and the number not in the labor force is at a record high. Yet the Gang of Eight bill would double the number of new legal immigrants allowed into the country over the next decade to 20 million, adding to the 40 million immigrants (legal and illegal) already here. It would also legalize some 12 million illegal immigrants.

Democrats are extremely vulnerable on this issue. But instead of labeling the Democrats as captive to special interests and indifferent to struggling American workers, much of the Republican party’s leadership wants to go along with this scheme.

A new report from the Center for Immigration Studies finds that the labor market looks dismal. We examine the employment rate — the share actually holding a job — and the labor-force participation rate — the share either holding a job or looking for one. (We also looked at the unemployment rate, but the government’s definition of “unemployed” is somewhat artificial and not especially illuminating.) In the first quarter of 2014, 58 million working-age native-born Americans were not working — 17 million more than in 2000. These figures do not include the 11 million working-age immigrants who are not working. Fully 34 percent of working-age natives do not have a job. As recently as the first quarter of 2000, the figure was 26 percent. (The report does not include those in prisons.)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; jobs; unemployment
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1 posted on 06/27/2014 7:38:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
FROM THE ARTICLE...



2 posted on 06/27/2014 7:40:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

E-Verify
E-Verify
E-Verify

We need to do business with companies that E-Verify


3 posted on 06/27/2014 7:41:12 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Illegals are the new slaves. Cheaper than American born and easier to control. Who needs safety rules when Mexicans are a dome a dozen.
“ want me to send a mule down there Mr Tagert.?”
“ You damn fool, Mules cost money. Send down a few Mexicans”.


4 posted on 06/27/2014 7:42:09 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: SeekAndFind

I COMPLETELY agree with this.

Our nation is so off-base on both jobs, and immigration at the moment.

Bring back American jobs. And stop bringing in ever-more immigrants.

America first.


5 posted on 06/27/2014 7:42:58 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cheap bread and circuses.

We’re consuming our inheritance.

In a few generations, the tide of immigration will end... because America won’t be worth coming to any more.


6 posted on 06/27/2014 7:43:44 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: SeekAndFind

If the government truly worked for the citizens, the only discussion of immigration would be how to control it and deal with it with regard to protecting the middle class and the citizenry at large.

Instead, special interests on both sides of the aisle have bought virtually the entire Congress.


7 posted on 06/27/2014 7:43:56 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: SeekAndFind
V O T E S ! ! ! !...............
8 posted on 06/27/2014 7:44:18 AM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 2,743 threads and 84,837 replies.)
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To: Steely Tom
In a few generations, the tide of immigration will end

Mexico surely must be empty by now..................

9 posted on 06/27/2014 7:45:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (I've posted a total of 2,743 threads and 84,837 replies.)
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To: Yorlik803

Exactly, if we need hordes of South American “coolies” to make our economy work then there is something very wrong with how our economy works.

The only standard of living politicians are concerned with is their own.


10 posted on 06/27/2014 7:46:06 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: joshua c
Dear President Bush and all the others that say the illegals are hear to do the jobs that Americans won't do. 28.5 percent of Americans are not working. 26.4 percent of the illegals are not working. What jobs are the ones the illegals and Americans won't do?

Hint. Those that pay less than welfare.

11 posted on 06/27/2014 7:49:24 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: joshua c
Yes...E-Verify would help, but so would

Welfare Reform!!

Take away the FreeStuff and you'd be amazed at how many able, but not working AMERICANS, would get up off of their, er, couches...and get to work.

12 posted on 06/27/2014 7:52:49 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: joshua c

We also need to reduce legal immigration. We don’t need 1.1 million legal immigrants a year. E-verify will not prevent legal immigrants from taking American jobs and depressing wages.


13 posted on 06/27/2014 7:53:10 AM PDT by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t understand why our citizens, liberal or conservative, who can’t find employment don’t get upset that the politicians want to bring millions of unskilled and uneducated immigrants into the labor market.


14 posted on 06/27/2014 7:53:53 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: SeekAndFind
That's because they are not "Jobs Americans Won't Do". They are "Jobs Americans Won't Do At The Wages Offered". Those last 4 words are the key to understanding why our political leaders and their corporate paymasters want immigrant labor.
15 posted on 06/27/2014 7:57:54 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: SeekAndFind

Are There Really Jobs Americans Won’t Do?

A detailed look at immigrant and native employment across occupations [May 2013]

http://cis.org/are-there-really-jobs-americans-wont-do

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That happens to be another major lie and it was spread by the previous Administration.

Under that previous Administration, several meat processing facilities lost workers [illegals] when ICE showed up. The next day nearly a thousand ‘citizens’ showed up to apply for those several dozen job openings.

Jobs Americans Won’t Do? That is another political canard that ranks right up there with ‘secure the border’.


16 posted on 06/27/2014 7:59:02 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Jane Long
From the article:

Many conservative advocates of high immigration respond that the reason so many natives are not working is that welfare is more attractive than work. There is clearly much truth in this argument. But, partly as a result of welfare reform, the number of people who work and receive non-cash welfare (e.g. food stamps, WIC, Medicaid) has greatly increased. Moreover, one of the reasons that welfare is attractive is that so many jobs pay less than they used to. Continually flooding the labor market with even more legal immigrant workers can only make this problem worse. Moreover, as I have pointed out before, immigrant households use non-cash welfare at higher rates than native households do.

There has also been a huge increase in Social Security disability, some of which surely reflects people gaming the system. But the numerical increase is nowhere near enough to explain the massive rise in non-work. Besides, people can work part-time and still collect disability payments. What’s more, the biggest increase in non-work is among the young, who are least likely to be disabled. Reforming welfare (again) and disability would certainly help in getting more people back into the labor market. But there has also been a big increase in people who are not working and not getting government assistance. If we hope to draw these folks back into jobs, then increasing wages and creating a tighter job market by reducing immigration would be extremely helpful. The Obama-Schumer-Ryan-Rubio-Paul-Boehner approach of dramatically increasing immigration makes absolutely no sense.

17 posted on 06/27/2014 8:04:28 AM PDT by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind

Because immigration policy is not about workers,

it’s about diluting and destroying Western/American culture.


18 posted on 06/27/2014 8:06:12 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: kabar

Yep....pretty much proves my point, no?

We’re paying folks to a.) either sit on their butts....or, b.) to work at cash paying jobs (ei, illegals) AND collect welfare.

I especially liked this line, from your article post....

...But there has also been a big increase in people who are not working and not getting government assistance. If we hope to draw these folks back into jobs, then increasing wages and creating a tighter job market by reducing immigration would be extremely helpful.

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Increasing wages?? Or, maybe....they’d end up working more than ONE job and then aspire to higher paying jobs....to elevate their lifestyles. Geez....I remember doing just that, at times. Being poor USED to be a GREAT motivator...to work hard.

Not anymore, with taxpayer funded handouts :-/


19 posted on 06/27/2014 8:15:54 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Jane Long
The point is that immigrants are using welfare programs to a greater extent than the native born. And we have a shortage of jobs, not workers.


20 posted on 06/27/2014 8:25:46 AM PDT by kabar
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