or your attempts at humor.
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Posted on 06/16/2014 8:51:55 PM PDT by icwhatudo
"Celebrate Pride Month with the St. Ignatius Community!"
Please post a link to your dubious claim. Also, from what I've read, there is a qualitative difference in the raw stats on "molestation", in that what abuse does occur in non-RC church communities tends to be heterosexual, and in the RC realm, predominantly homosexual.
As a student of the Italian language, I have noticed mistranslations of his Italian into English, which may be arising from Italian being his second language. Glad he is addressing the problem.
From your link, I must agree. He does sound like one of the good guys:
In 2002, in recognition of his role as an emerging leader on the Church’s response to the sexual misconduct crisis, Archbishop Lori was appointed to the USCCB Ad Hoc Committee on Sexual Abuse. He was instrumental in drafting the landmark Charter for the Protection of Children and Young People. ...In his writing, teaching and advocacy, Archbishop Lori has been a courageous voice for religious liberty... On October 26, 2011, serving as new head of the Ad Hoc Committee for Religious Liberty of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), Archbishop Lori called on Congress to defend the American legacy of religious liberty... He noted several recent actions by government entities that mark the erosion of the freedom of religion... includ[ing] a health coverage mandate that would coerce employers to pay for services for which they have moral objections, such as abortion, sterilization and contraceptives...
He also urged the House to reject the Respect for Marriage Act... which would repeal the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA)... which... defines marriage as between one man and one woman for purposes of federal law and leaves states free to define marriage as they see fit.
Religious liberty "is not merely a privilege that the government grants us and so may take away at will. Instead, religious liberty is inherent in our very humanity, hard-wired into each and every one of us by our Creator," he said. "Thus government has a perennial obligation to acknowledge and protect religious liberty as fundamental, no matter the moral and political trends of the moment," he told Congress.
In November 2011, Archbishop Lori addressed the assembled United States bishops at their annual fall meeting... In a speech widely reported across the nation, Archbishop Lori warned of the dangers of treating religion "merely as a private matter between an individual and his or her God." Citing an "aggressive secularism" as a competing system of belief, Archbishop Lori said that recent court decisions and proposed regulations treat religion "as a divisive and disruptive force better kept out of public life," which the government continues to encroach on individual lives. He called for interfaith collaboration to defend religious liberty and conscience rights in our culture.
Most recently, Archbishop Lori, as Chair of the Ad Hoc Committee on Religious Liberty, has helped to lead the Church's national effort to roll back a rule by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services that mandates that all Catholic institutions, including hospitals, universities and charities, offer their employees health coverage that includes sterilization, abortion-inducing drugs, and contraception. "Never before in the history of our nation have citizens been forced to directly purchase something that violates their consciences," Archbishop Lori said.
He did say so; I read his remarks in the original Italian. His statements were deliberately mistranslated and the mistranslation widely promulgated by the leftist media, which, by leaving a word out here and there, seized upon what they wanted to hear instead of what he actually said.
Taunting is useless without a citation to back up your claims.
Well, he sure got a lot of people killed. I wonder how that number—that is, the total number of people who were killed as a result of the protestant heresy—stacks up against the number of people killed in the Crusades.
It is unfair to blame Luther's movement for the fights that broke out between factions -- both sides participated, to the death. Luther was an Augustinian Catholic monk who did not intend to split the Church, but rather to reform it. His attempts at overcoming the corruption of the day were met with excommunication; and due to political jousting between the HRE and the Prince of Saxony, violence broke out. The violence arose from both camps, sort of like what you are seeing today between Sunnis and Shi'ites.
A similar situation arose in a later phase of the Reformation when an Anglican priest, John Wesley, attempted to reform the Anglican Church. Instead, he and his followers were derisively called Methodists and were persecuted by the Anglicans. While the same level of violence did not occur, that fracture was one of the reasons many Methodists and other non-Anglican reformers left Europe for the New World, which led to the founding of America.
And Luther, at least, I would have expected to denounce the violence.
And I would agree, this isn’t fair.
Sometimes the spirit of factions fighting just because they ARE factions, rather than because of a disagreement in philosophy, can completely overwhelm the picture.
Anyhow, I hope that Rome can persuade Baltimore to cool it with this stuff. I don’t gloat to see it.
They were about as funny as My Mother The Car or your attempts at humor.
Wow, guess you’ve never seen those gay choir masters and organists in the English speaking nation’s Protestant churches.
Do you think for one moment that he didn't? He was heartbroken.
>> It is time for us to set aside our sectarian tensions
Agreed. Well said.
Anecdotal evidence is not an accurate study of the relative percentages of gay or straight child or adult abusers in the Catholic vs the Prot/Evangelical churches. If you find a reputable study, I'll be happy to read it.
As for the visuals, you may be thinking mainly of the Episcopal church, which does excel in fancy dress and assorted faggotry -- as I posted above, many of the protestant/reform sects that founded America were escaping just that very church, which was founded in apostasy (Henry VIII wanted a divorce) and had risen to the status of supreme political power, as had the Holy Roman Empire. The reformers, in founding America, put foremost the conscience of the individual "Under God", rejecting the political authority of both popes and kings and leaving the individual free to select his or her denomination, or none at all.
Freepmail for you coming up in about 3 minutes...
Thanks for this info; but can you be SURE it was DELIBERATE?
Smelling of elderberries SHOULD be enough to get a person a citation!
A translation of his fairly simple paragraph should have been pretty black and white; but the mainstream American press left out a clarifying pronoun -- he said "who am I to judge it", not "who am I to judge" -- which places the emphasis on the behavior or the intention and renunciation process, not the person or their so-called sexual identity, unlike what the American press ran with. Many news sources also cut out his second, clarifying sentence that gays should follow what is written in the catechism.
Sorry I lack the time to page back and back to where I posted the correct translation at the time he first made the comments about "who am I to judge" etc.
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As members of the Mystical Body of Christ, the Church, we are called to celebrate and share the glass of diversity of sexuality in our church today. Our organization, Embracing God’s Gifts, has been formed as an instrument for recognizing these gifts and incorporating their goodness and use into the life of our parish. Our mission is to create opportunities for the spiritual enrichment, support and inclusion of all diverse individuals, while being informed by church teaching and to promote awareness and community building among them. We will accomplish this through a variety of endeavors that foster support, communication and social activities. We invite all to participate in this group with open-mindedness and compassion.
BTW, from that same flyer they advertise that they have an “Annual Pride Cookout”. Sure sounds to me like they’re “embracing the diverse homosexual lifestyle”.
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