Posted on 06/11/2014 8:51:24 AM PDT by rktman
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) failed to congratulate or even acknowledge Dave Brat in his concession speech last night.
Neither did Cantor offer Brat his support in November's general election against his Democratic opponent, or call Brat to concede the race, according to Brat.
"Cantor's concession speech did not mention Dave once," Brat's campaign manager Zach Werrell noted to Breitbart News.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
It is not better. Electing GOP GETS YOU DEMOCRATS! It is no different because they SUPPORT WHAT THE DEMS DO!
WHY do you not see the history of this country in front of you?
Citizen wants his blankie. He refuses to admit the damage the GOP does and he will always invent an excuse to keep them in power.
He and those like him are the source of the GOP power and resiliency because he can be counted on , ‘no matter what’ to back them. Thus, they are the battery that power the GOP assault on America.
I agree Norm. That’s exactly right.
“...Some here propose voting for Democrats to defeat RINOs like Cantor. ...”
You will never hear me say anything like that. You WILL hear me say I will write in my choice, rather than vote for a RINO.
When I vote for a RINO, I am being used. That person is using MY vote to help the Dems.
“...I want someone to explain to me exactly how the country is somehow better with more Democrats in office...”
You are absolutely correct - It’s NOT better. But my question remains: Explain to me how it serves our cause to elect quislings, just because they have an R after their name?
I think you and I probably agree on a great many issues, but I cannot and will not support a RINO that only stabs us in the back “some of the time”... those “some times” invariably are on the key and important issues that typically are things Conservatives want stopped dead.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
I agree. I said on an earlier thread that I think he was shellshocked. He had a fake grin stuck on his face, as he stared straight ahead and babbled on about basically nothing.
Nothing nice to say to his competitor and he garbled out something idiotic about where he and his supporters were going. Oh, and that he was a conservative.
“People that want more of a problem when they admit the problems are morons.”
I know you want to call me a moron. Why not just say it instead of talking around it like you’re trying to be nice.
Let me clarify my position for you one more time.
Democrats are a huge problem. Democrats vote against everything you and I hold dear. They are destroying the country.
RINOs are a problem. They sometimes—maybe even often—vote with Democrats against everything you and I hold dear. They sometimes help the Democrats destroy the country, albeit more slowly.
Now explain to me in very precise terms how it’s better or even the same to have more Democrats in office?
Now a RINO is someone who sometimes—maybe even most of the time—aids our political enemies. Just how much aid makes someone a RINO? What if they’re against abortion and for lower taxes, but they support amnesty for the Dreamers? Do you think we should vote for an abortion loving, taxing and spending, full on amnesty pimp Democrat to beat the RINO? That seems to be what you’re promoting, and if so, how in the world does that advance our cause?
Norm, I think he just has a different viewpoint, brother. Most of us out here want what’s best for the Country.
We’ve all got ideas on how to solve things. We knock our heads together and come up with a solution and then make it happen. We argue, yell a little bit, then come back to the table and hash it out.
I think that’s the strength of this forum. We can disagree and find ways to work it out.
I think he’s looking for a way to stay in the race. Or at least make sure Brat loses so he can run again in two years.
If the shoe fits, don’t be afraid to wear it.
When you help empower GOP RINOS, YOU put dems into positions of power. YOU. Not me. YOU put dems into power because the GOP you vote for side with them., In precice terms there is no difference between a GOP in power supporting a dem and a Dem doing what they do.
Dems did not do ‘Ryan screws vets’. Dems are not pushing as hard as the GOP for illegals. Dems are not turning on their own voters. That is the GOP doing it and the Dem benefits.
Either admit reality or admit you will ‘no matter what’ the voting to come and be done with it.
No, he and I have been at it for 3 days now. His viewpoint is ‘gop no matter what’. Check his post history.
Gotcha, brother.
But overall, I think we all agree that Cantor getting his arsch handed to him is a very good thing and sends a loud message.
The bad thing: He’s probably vindictive enough to try to help ram something through with his buddy Boehner. The GOP-e isn’t scared - they’re pissed now.
Hence, RINO helping Dems... and our point exactly.
I agree, He looked a little gobsmacked to me. Still in denial.
I have to be straight up honest. I WANT him to go scorched earth on the people that hosed him. Because the right wing needs the wake up call.
I want this immigration issue rammed down. Because then either the lesser evils man up and fight them or we lose. I am tired of the protracted death by a thousand cuts games.
I want the endgame on this ASAP. Come what may. We either fight or lose.
“...I am tired of the protracted death by a thousand cuts games...”
You and I both.
“...We either fight or lose...”
I think we both agree that Brat’s deposition of Cantor was nothing less than a swift Right Cross to the Jaw of the RINOs...
“It is no different because they SUPPORT WHAT THE DEMS DO!”
I’ll explain why I disagree. You keep claiming the “RINOs” support what the Democrats do. I even agree with you to a certain extent, but it’s simply not as black and white as you appear to claim. Even some of the best conservatives out there aren’t 100% pure. Are they RINOs? Where do you draw the line?
Look at some of the conservative rating sites. Democrats are typically near zero, but the worst RINOs usually score a few votes in our favor. Even the worst RINO may be with us on 20%, 30% or even 40% of the votes!
Now you keep saying the RINOs need to be eliminated, and I agree. I want them gone, and I want the Republican Party shifted right. That’s not the issue. The issue is you keep writing that it’s better to elect Democrats (a MAJOR problem) to defeat RINOs (a lesser, but significant problem).
What’s really more important here, making the Republican Party more pure or building enough support to control Congress? Forgive me if I seem dense, but I simply don’t understand how more Democrats is better or even the same. If that were so, tell me we’d be in the same shape right now if a Democrat replaced every RINO. If that were so, we wouldn’t even control the House.
It’s said that Boehner could pass immigration amnesty right now with Democrat and RINO votes, but Boehner is a RINO don’t you know. So put a Democrat in Boehner’s seat. Put another in Cantor’s seat. Keep eliminating those RINOs and tell me we’d be in the exact same shape as we are now.
A solid hit. And rather than running to his corner to aid Cantor, we should hit again. And again.
Some want to get him an ice pack.
I know a lot of people think I maybe crazy in my thinking, but I believe with God all things are possible. God sure has done a lot for me and as a sinner I did not deserve His love or grace until I surrendered my heart to him. We just have people who wants to be God, but not to know God, such as our politicians.
I will always vote for the person who believe in America and the Constitution. No more "hope and change" garbage of willful destruction of America.
“...we should hit again. And again....”
Completely agree. When they’re on the ropes, finish it. One Primary at a time.
Or whatever it takes.
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