Posted on 06/04/2014 11:50:57 AM PDT by conservative98
Steve Lonegan is a wonderful family man and patriot. He would have been a superb member of the House. But the DC RINOs, led by John Boehner, were opposed to him. You see, he would have been an independent conservative and they cannot stand that in the Capitol Building. So, the RINOs put up a candidate against Lonegan who they can control, and will control, and who loaned his campaign millions to use in an endless series of attack ads. This is the new modus operandi of the RINOs in all the races across the country. During the course of this campaign, Steve's newly born grandson, and only grandchild, became extremely ill. He stopped campaigning for some time while caring for his family. In another place and time, a man like this would have easily won a Republican primary. He's exactly the kind of person Republicans used to rally around and who are desperately needed in Washington. I am very sorry he was unable to beat the odds.
I’m sorry but I don’t support Mayor Lonegan. WE NEED NEW FACES. He’s been around at least 15 years and for whatever reason can’t get traction. He’s Maury Sabran with principles and governing experience.
It’s unfortunate because he would bring, what’s that word, gravitas? Principles?
NJ needs a South or Central Jersey, even Northwest Conservative. The North East corner of the state is a sewer.
If he lost FIVE times in a row, yes, he needs to get a clue that voters dislike him. You can yell “Abraham Lincoln!” and “Ronald Reagan!” Neither of them had a track record of 0 wins, 5 losses.But I have no doubt this reality is lost on Lonegan supporters and they’re probably gearing up now to “draft” him for a seventh run in 2016. The very definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over...
Dole, Mccain, Ford, Romney- losers
Reagan- two landslided after years of defeat
Insanity- supporting big govt Republicans who lose to democrats over and over again.
I have listened to him. He says a lot of things I support. Some I think he is dead wrong. But at the end of the day, if we elect RINOS, it is our fault when they side with liberals. Not Obamas, not anyone elses. Ours. We have a choice. We stick to principles or we do not.
I certainly agree. The "send everything on the planet back to the states" is not a conservative position, as some freepers claim it is. I'm not a fan of the Rand Paul wing of the GOP, or his fan club on here that thinks he's the Tea Party savior and that "states rights" is the answer to everything.
Unfortunately for you, a Libertarian position on one issue being handled at the state level is not the same thing as a "big government liberal RINO" position, so again, you failed to provide any evidence that Tom MacArthur is a "big government liberal RINO" besides the fact that you think Steve Lonegan is such a heroic tea Party savior that no other Republican should be allowed to run against him (which again, proves my point that the Lonegan crowd defines "RINO" as "anyone who dares to run for an office that Steve Lonegan wants")
>> Whenever a candidate is pushing this as the only solution to Gay Marriage <<
I see no evidence that MacArthur claimed sending it back to the states was the "ONLY" solution. It's his preferred one according to his website, certainly, but did he say he would vote AGAINST a federal law to protect traditional marriage? If you have any evidence, please let me know. And again, take it up with the Rand Paul crowd because Libertarian Republicans who DO make that argument are embraced by the Tea Party rather than bashed as "big government liberal RINOs"
>> That he decided to challenge a Consetvative makes his positions void. <<
Ah, I see. No conservative is allowed to run for an open seat when another conservative wants it, or their positions are void. I guess that makes Fred Thompson a "big government liberal RINO" for running for President when Duncan Hunter wanted the nomination. And wouldn't Steve Lonegan himself be "invalid" for running for Governor of New Jersey in 2005 when far better known and qualified conservative Bret Schundler was already running? All Lonegan accomplished in that race was polling single digits and sucking enough votes from Schundler to throw the race to a RINO.
More likely, this rule ONLY applies when His Holiness Steve Lonegan wants to run for an office. In that scenario (and only that one), all other Republicans MUST get out of his way and immediately endorse his candidacy because he's the might tea party savior who is entitled to a coronation as the GOP nominee.
>> Macarthur is backed by big govt Republicans and was involved in TARP. <<
Lonegan is backed by numerous big govt Republicans (Cap n' traitor RINO Congressman Leonard Lance was one of his strongest supporters) and was involved in increasing property tax increases by 70%.
Lonegan, Oberweis- losers
>> Reagan- two landslided after years of defeat <<
Funny, I seem to recall him being ELECTED Governor of the nation's largest state TWICE and then extremely narrowly losing a nomination for President in 1976 against an entrenched incumbent. He then easily won the nomination and the White House the next time around. I'm not sure how that translates to "years of defeat" in your mind, or is any way comparable to a mayor of an obscure town losing by big margins in five separate attempts for higher office.
>> Insanity- supporting big govt Republicans who lose to democrats over and over again. <<
Indeed, which is why the Lonegan crowd has to be insane to keep backing that loser or thinking six losses in a row resembles "Abraham Lincoln" and "Ronald Reagan". It must suck in your alternate reality where Reagan blew a half dozen elections.
Indeed, which is why the Lonegan crowd has to be insane to keep backing that loser or thinking six losses in a row resembles “Abraham Lincoln” and “Ronald Reagan”. It must suck in your alternate reality where Reagan blew a half dozen elections.
Hmmmmmmmm. Abraham Lincoln had 7 election losses before he became president. Guess he and his supporters were insane to keep running for office...using your logic.
Ronald Reagan lost to Gerald Ford, Reagan supported Goldwater and he lost. Guess Reagan should have given up after being rejected by the voters who didn’t like him, yeah/s
Anyway, support the big govt Republican but don’t whine when they impose high taxes and walk across the aisle to help Democrats impose Marxism on your state.
Really, which ones? I recall him losing an extremely close Senate race (where he won the popular vote), but WINNING a House race PLUS four election to the state legislature. Which puts him in an entirely different league than a guy who lost for Senate, AND Congress AND the state legislature, over and over, by BIG margins, every time, but you guys still blindly worship him and will continue to support him if he runs again. But hey, if it makes you feel better to compare some obscure mayor who never wins to "Abraham Lincoln", have fun with your delusion.
>> Ronald Reagan lost to Gerald Ford, Reagan supported Goldwater and he lost. Guess Reagan should have given up after being rejected by the voters who didn’t like him, yeah/s <<
Ah I see. You're counting campaigning for ANOTHER candidate as "losing an election", even though he wasn't running for anything. Is that where you got your "seven losses" for Lincoln from? Well if I was going to judge Lonegan by that criteria, then he's probably actually "lost" about three dozens times instead of six. Do you really want to play this game?
>> support the big govt Republican but don’t whine when they impose high taxes and walk across the aisle to help Democrats impose Marxism on your state <<
Again, you must be referring to Lonegan, who already walked across the aisle providing his support for Democrats to impose high taxes in New Jersey. Don't worry, I don't whine when my candidate loses and claims the "liberal Republican establishment" rigged it. You guys have already mastered the whining game and pull the liberal tactic of crying how its everyone else's fault when your candidate turns off voters in droves and gets his butt kicked. Boo hoo. Not to worry, you can run him again in 2016 and scream "ABRAHAM LINCOLN!" and "LIBERAL ESTABLISHMENT CHEATED!" when Lonegan runs the same terrible campaign and loses again. I guess its much easier when you play victim like the Dems and never accept responsibility for your team having a lousy candidate.
“But in April 2013, the city council of Randolph, NJ under Tom MacArthur raised taxes 3.69% in one year, despite noting that the town’s ratable base actually contracted in size. This was on top of a previous 4.32% contentious tax increase in 2010.”
http://www.redstate.com/diary/rino411/2014/04/01/160539/
In NJ this is being a Conservative. Got to win with a tax raising Republican don’t bother trying to change the system. Accept big govt GOP. I get it.
Yes, in New Jersey, ANY Republican NOT named "Steve Lonegan" is OBVIOUSLY a "big govt, liberal Republican establishment RINO". I get it. Thank God Steve and his worshipers are the only patriots left.
And of course we must oppose the "big govt, liberal Republican establishment", UNLESS its involves fighting actual RINOs like Leonard Lance who are ENDORSING Lonegan's campaign. God bless 'em! Steve Lonegan says Lance is a patriot, so he is. Pay no attention to Lance voting for cap n' trade and gloating about how often he supports Pelosi.
Best of all, losing six separate elections in a row makes you JUST LIKE "Abraham Lincoln" and "Ronald Reagan", because well, they lost once, therefore its fine to keep backing perennial candidates who never win.
Lonegan 2016! He's a winner! (and if he loses, it everyone else's fault anyway!) Drink the kool-aid!
Best of all, losing six separate elections in a row makes you JUST LIKE “Abraham Lincoln” and “Ronald Reagan”, because well, they lost once, therefore its fine to keep backing perennial candidates who never win.
Actually I posted Lincoln lost 7 times and Reagan lost once.
its your opinion Lonegan will never win. and everyone has opinions.
He lost for a reason all those time, he's a crap candidate who most people dislike.
>> Well Mark, hope you remember this in November
He won’t remember.
Oh his Majesty the Great One is Steve’s corner, no wonder there is so much irrational devotion to him.
Yeah thanks Steve, thank you for carpetbagging into district you had no ties to, and thank you for helping your moderate friend Leonard Lance beat a conservative in a race that was closer than yours. Thanks a lot.
He’s a self promoting gadfly telling you what you want to hear about how the establishment sucks to sucker you into your support, you may not see through him but the majority of NJ Republican voters clearly do as they’re rejected him time and again, he only won the Senate nomination because some clueless newcomer was his only opponent. You may like him, most people in NJ do not like him, that he is a jerk with a huge ego is the common opinion.
Then former Governor Reagan lost once (barely) to a sitting President, comparing Steve to him is ludicrous, this is his is 5th or 6th failed attempt to win an office higher than small town Mayor.
People like this are called “perennial candidates”. They are jokes and they almost never win, heard of Harold Stassen? This guy carpetbagged into that district from Northern NJ, why? Because he’s desperate to serve? No, because he’s desperate to be an important politician. He sounds like those establishment figures he rails against. I think it’s embarrassing to have guys like this associated with the conservative/tea party movement.
If McArthur is no good (wait and see, I’m not at all convinced he’s a RINO because Steve says so) then I hope a prominent LOCAL conservative opposes him in 2016. Steve’s friend, RINO Leonard Lance had a tea party opponent that actually did better than Steve, lost by only 9 points, pity Steve supported Lance because Lance campaigned for him in the Senate race. So I guess being an establishment RINO is just fine with Steve as long as you support him? Doesn’t sound very principled.
Whatever, voters rejected him AGAIN and I’ve said my piece. Keep defending him and bemoaning his latest inevitable loss if you want, I don’t care.
And while we’re on the topic of telling voters one thing but doing another...
“If I was to lose this election, which I’m not going to do, I intend to go back into the private sector and build a business. I believe that the most moral and effective thing you can do is build a business, create jobs, create value for consumers, and I’ve done my best in New Jersey as a mayor, as an advocate for taxpayers and even as a spokesperson in this campaign in serving my country. So if I was to lose, I will not be running again”
— Steve Lonegan, 10/04/2013
“I’ll return to the private sector and put my money where my mouth is and try to build a business and create jobs. And I think my wife probably likes to hear that.”
— Steve Lonegan, 10/16/2013
“Absolutely not,” he said of an anti-establishment run. “I’m a team player and the party needs to be unified. The Democrats are already raising money for this race. This is going to be a very hard-hitting race.”
— Steve Lonegan, 11/26/13
http://videos.nj.com/star-ledger/2013/10/lonegan_loses_senate_seat_to_b.html
http://www.politickernj.com/69872/lonegan-says-he-would-move-ocean-county-run-cd3
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