Posted on 06/04/2014 11:43:50 AM PDT by cotton1706
Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., panned a lawsuit against National Security Agency data collection filed by Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., saying that the bulk phone data collection program does not involve the Fourth Amendment.
"I think collecting data is not a Fourth Amendment activity if it's related to gathering intelligence to prevent a terrorist attack," Graham told the Washington Examiner. "It's not being used to prosecute anybody. This is an intelligence-gathering process and we'll leave it up to the courts to see if it somehow has violated the Fourth Amendment."
Paul told reporters that the program conflicts directly with the Fourth Amendment. "I just want you to go to a judge, have a person's name, and individualize their warrant," he said, explaining that he doesn't oppose spying or the National Security Agency's ability to review some phone records. "That's what the Fourth Amendment says. I'm not against going to an individual who we suspect, with a warrant, and getting their phone records, and then if they called 100 people, I'm not against looking at those people."
The lawsuit drew mixed reactions in the Senate. Virginia Democrat Tim Kaine said that the NSA program needs some curtailing, but suggested that the real problem lies with the nature of the authorization for the use of military force that provides the legal backdrop for what used to be called the war on terror.
"I think most of the problems with these programs come from the fact that we have an open-ended authorization of the use of military force, so that the declaration of war that was passed by Congress after 9/11 is not limited in time or geography,"
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Yeah, you’ve got nothing to fear if you’ve done nothing wrong.
‘Nother day and a “nother Constitution shredder.
Miss Lindsay LOVES big guv and WOULD NOT have like The Founders.
I pray the flaming crypto-liberal homo is soon voted out.
Of course that same argument could be extended to any and all of our rights.
Oh, OK Mr. Graham.
We'll tap your cell phone and record everything you say - but we won't "use it" unless we hear you plot terrorism.
That's OK with you, right?
Now I know the NSA isn't actually recording words (as I understand it) - yet - but I wonder what ol' Lindsey would have to say to that?
It was Ben Franklin who said that if you trade liberty for security, you end up with neither.
Lindsay Graham has Potomac Fever. The only known cure is retirement.
Reasonng like that can justify ANY and ALL acts.
"I think molesting Jewish pre-schoolers is not a Fourth Amendment activity if it's related to gathering intelligence to prevent a terrorist attack," said Lindsay Graham.
See?
BS!
The NSA is giving your phone records to the DEA. And the DEA is covering it upHow about calling a spade a spade? It's a process known as LYING!The Drug Enforcement Administration has been the recipient of multiple tips from the NSA. DEA officials in a highly secret office called the Special Operations Division are assigned to handle these incoming tips, according to Reuters. Tips from the NSA are added to a DEA database that includes "intelligence intercepts, wiretaps, informants and a massive database of telephone records." This is problematic because it appears to break down the barrier between foreign counterterrorism investigations and ordinary domestic criminal investigations.
Because the SOD's work is classified, DEA cases that began as NSA leads can't be seen to have originated from a NSA source.
So what does the DEA do? It makes up the story of how the agency really came to the case in a process known as "parallel construction."...
Bing-O!
That is scary.
Either scary stupid or scary arrogant.
But scary.
Good old Linseed, kneepads securely attached.
“It’s not being used to prosecute anybody.”
Oh, well it must be perfectly alright then. You wouldn’t mind if we tap your phones without a warrant, would you Lindsay? We’re not going to use it to prosecute anybody...
Linda,Linda, Linda, what have the NSA got on you from your phone calls and computer? I mean we can guess, you being the studly example of manhood you aren’t.
EXACTLY!! And that is EXACTLY what they have done the minute the horribly misnamed Patriot Act was signed into law.
OK, so let’s say the current people don’t look at your data...
They still have it and are storing it.
There is absolutely nothing to stop a future tyranny from targeting people for their beliefs and using this data against them.
It should not be collected or kept.
Ted Kennedy epitomized the side of Massachusetts, which principled Conservatives, not only in the South, but here in the Midwest, despise. This sort of adulation says a lot about Lindsey--none of it acceptable to principled Americans.
William Flax
remember the howling and protests when Bush wanted to spy on terrorists? somehow it is fine and dandy to spy on innocent American citizens
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