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1 posted on 05/27/2014 9:31:07 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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2 posted on 05/27/2014 9:31:43 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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The drivers of the car

How many drivers were there?

3 posted on 05/27/2014 9:32:45 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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This is a get-out-the-popcorn story. Cop-haters who believe officers are always in the wrong vs. sane people who respect the law.
4 posted on 05/27/2014 9:35:06 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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The good news?

No dogs involved...and ONLY 15 rounds were expended...


7 posted on 05/27/2014 9:41:35 AM PDT by moovova
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"The Arkansas police officers who fired 15 rounds into a fleeing vehicle, killing both the driver and passenger, were justified in doing so, the Supreme Court ruled Monday. "

I wonder how they will rule and live when folks start shooting back.

10 posted on 05/27/2014 9:46:08 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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driving a car in a high speed chase IS possession of a deadly weapon.


11 posted on 05/27/2014 9:46:12 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Benghazi)!!!)
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why was he on a high speed chase? The cops probably thought the young lady in passenger seat was a kidnap victim, that’s why he was running scared.


13 posted on 05/27/2014 9:50:21 AM PDT by snowstorm12
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One could equally argue that firing a gun from a moving vehicle at another moving vehicle makes a dangerous situation even more dangerous. The police could easily have shot an innocent occupant of another vehicle.


16 posted on 05/27/2014 9:53:52 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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I understand why many department have gone to discontinuing high speed chases in high traffic areas. The more cars involved in the chase, the greater the chance for innocent driver casualties.

I question shooting at a fleeing car only because so often the number of hits vs. the number of shots fired by officers is very low. This puts anyone near the scene in serious danger. If it’s actually true that both suspects were killed with only fifteen shots fired, it’s nothing short of amazing.


18 posted on 05/27/2014 9:55:32 AM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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Wonder if the cop in New Mexico, who shot at a car with a woman and kids south of Taos, will get his job back?


19 posted on 05/27/2014 9:56:06 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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Just curiuos...who were the people in the car? No mention in the article. Maybe there was a reason why they were fleeing the police.


21 posted on 05/27/2014 9:57:55 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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won’t be long and all new cars will be required to have a remote kill law enforcement can use to end the chase before it starts.


26 posted on 05/27/2014 10:01:10 AM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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Our unelected rulers turn against us.


28 posted on 05/27/2014 10:02:01 AM PDT by DManA
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Mr. Alito said, “we hold that the Fourth Amendment did not prohibit petitioners from using the deadly force that they employed to terminate the dangerous car chase.”

I'm sorry... I can't tell from the article.

Exactly what was the Fourth Amendment issue in this case?

How does shooting at a fleeing car involve unreasonable search and seizure, or warrants naming the thing and place to be searched?

Were they arguing that the person had a right to be secure in their car, and that the pursuing police didn't have a right to stop them?

-PJ

33 posted on 05/27/2014 10:06:42 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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Bad ruling. If they could shoot to kill they could have shot to disable the vehicle. The issue is the discretion used - the lack of.


36 posted on 05/27/2014 10:08:17 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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Interesting that the article doesn’t mention who was prosecuting the officers.


39 posted on 05/27/2014 10:09:51 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Here is video of incident.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfGkVQz208

The incident in question began in July 2004, when police in West Memphis, Arkansas, questioned Donald Rickard at a gas station about a broken light on his white Honda.
Rickard refused to step out the car and then took off. With his girlfriend, Kelly Allen, in the passenger seat, Rickard crossed over the Mississippi River into Tennessee along Interstate 40.

After Rickard rammed a police car head-on and sideswiped another, police fired 15 shots into the vehicle, mounted cameras from police vehicles show. The car went airborne and slammed into a house in Memphis. Rickard and Allen, both 44, were killed.


40 posted on 05/27/2014 10:09:53 AM PDT by snowstorm12
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The actual ruling:

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/12-1117_1bn5.pdf

5 minute chase, speeds over 100 mph, “and the record conclusively disproves that the chase was over when Rickard’s car came to a temporary standstill and officers began shooting. Under the circumstances when the shots were fired, all that a reasonable officer could have concluded from Rickard’s conduct was that he was intent on resuming his flight, which would again pose a threat to others on the road.”


46 posted on 05/27/2014 10:15:54 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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Thank goodness. I feel so much safer.

Morons.


51 posted on 05/27/2014 10:21:31 AM PDT by ZULU (https://www.facebook.com/freejustina)
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FWIW, I agree with Alito. The ‘unarmed’ passenger was in the weapon. Bad choice being in that weapon.


57 posted on 05/27/2014 10:28:24 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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