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Is Cliven Bundy a "Racist"? Where’s the PROOF?
The New American ^ | 25 April 2014 | William F. Jasper

Posted on 04/25/2014 4:29:06 PM PDT by VitacoreVision

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To: Georgia Girl 2

And Bill O’Reilly.


41 posted on 04/25/2014 5:25:14 PM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: entropy12
Cliven was winning the PR battle. Whether he is racist or not is not important. What was not smart is to throw race into the conversation. It was totally unnecessary.

So, since it's clear that he's probably NOT a racist, the proper thing for you to do is to jump on the bandwagon along with the evil people who are calling him racist in order to distract from the core issue?

Basicly you're saying he shouldn't have said something that's not racist... he should have known the MSM would lie, and therefore he's in the wrong because of the MSM.

42 posted on 04/25/2014 5:26:12 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

The facts are now all known and still a certain group of people are invested in perpetuating the meme that he’s a racist and we need to distance ourselves.

Which, if I were a GOP or liberal plant trying to stop an organization of likeminded people from forming to support him...that’s just what I’d do.

Perhaps all the lurkers and posters to the Bundy threads should consider. And then remember the names of the people doing it.


43 posted on 04/25/2014 5:29:37 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: entropy12

Hell no!!

I don’t read bullshit!

No way would I do anything to “win friends and influence people”!!

Speak the truth and anyone that doesn’t like it can shove it where the sun doesn’t shine!


44 posted on 04/25/2014 5:29:51 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Mercat

Cliven veered from cattle grazing punishable by jack booted storm troopers surrounding his family to commenting on why blacks are on welfare. He should not have done that even though it absolutely does NOT prove that he is a racist. But I give him a break because he is not a politician. I find more fault with Akin & Mourdock who were both seasoned politicians and yet made dumb statements to Media.


45 posted on 04/25/2014 5:30:27 PM PDT by entropy12 (Democrats win WH for one reason...welfare checks, food stamps and 143 more giveaways)
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To: VitacoreVision

We call it the Nannie State for a reason..it treat you as children ..Mr Bundy seem to been try to point out that after men of ever race have fought over different times and different places to be called men, to ALL treated as men...we now have a government calling us ALL children, it treats us as children, in the hope we act as children. benevolent patronage is destructive of all, its a drug for state control


46 posted on 04/25/2014 5:30:40 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: VitacoreVision

Many freepers have faulted Bundy for not being politically correct.

They say now he is a public figure he should temper his language...I call BS.


47 posted on 04/25/2014 5:31:17 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Cementjungle

Actually if I were him, I would have stayed away from Media altogether. But Cliven was happy to see face time on TV camera’s everyday. Then it behooves for him to be more diligent in making controversial comments. It will NOT GAIN HIM ANYTHING!


48 posted on 04/25/2014 5:35:19 PM PDT by entropy12 (Democrats win WH for one reason...welfare checks, food stamps and 143 more giveaways)
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To: napscoordinator

Have something against Amendment the First?

I heard nothing inherently racist in what he said. That said, the more he speaks of MSM bias/racist slant, good on him.

Eric Holder was right; when it come to race, we are a Nation of cowards. Conservatives speak of race, the Statists call us “racist”, and we cower.

The only difference between Alveda King, and Cliven Bundy is the color of their skin....tell Dr. King to shut up. Are you ashamed of whites? Or are you afraid of being labeled a racist, or a “Tom”?


49 posted on 04/25/2014 5:37:26 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: PoloSec

They seem to want a blow-dried poll-tested focus group trained plastic banana robot to follow before they will stand up against the lawlessness of the government. As if they would stand up and take a risk if they got one.


50 posted on 04/25/2014 5:37:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye

Thats just crazy talk! Someone could lose a big screen tv!

What are you, some kind of nut? People taking chances on ....anything?

That way lies MADNESS!!!

/s


51 posted on 04/25/2014 5:41:56 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart
That way be dragons! Don't wanna mess with any dragons.

Unless of course we can get Max Headroom to lead us. lol

52 posted on 04/25/2014 5:46:31 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: SgtBob; dalereed; Ophiucus; Norm Lenhart

I am not saying that he said anything racist. What I am saying is that he totally changed the discussion. He was winning and now he is losing. There was ZERO reason for him to say anything other then the government is screwing with him. No he had to go on some tangent which was unnecessary. I guess he feels that this is the important discussion that needs to be the focus and not the federal government getting into his business. He totally screwed himself. Sure he has his first amendment rights, but what do you think is going to happen in the next couple months when the feds come for him again? He will not have his supporters that is for sure. He did it to himself. He should be proud of his first amendment rights. He must have some sort of agenda that the rest of America does not have insight on. We will see how he ends up.


53 posted on 04/25/2014 5:49:25 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: entropy12

I might consider agreeing with you if Bundy were a younger man, on his way up the corporate ladder, or planning on running for office.

But he isn’t. He is an old man, and a private person. At his age, he is probably sick of the years of witnessing the long slow decline of our county, and doesn’t give a flying flip about offending the idiots in DC and the media.

I am an old woman, and am sick and tired of the social pressure to be pleasant and polite to idiots and fools. It is “high-time” to call them out on the damage they are doing to what is left of our culture and country.

I agree with him, and so did Daniel Patrick Moynihan (Senator, D-NY) who warned against welfare back in the mid-sixties, predicting that it would destroy the black family, and the black community.


54 posted on 04/25/2014 5:50:05 PM PDT by jacquej ("It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and to forget his own.")
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To: VitacoreVision

Racess? He...... Is.........White

He dared call someone a Negro!


55 posted on 04/25/2014 5:53:46 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: entropy12
Actually if I were him, I would have stayed away from Media altogether. But Cliven was happy to see face time on TV camera’s everyday. Then it behooves for him to be more diligent in making controversial comments. It will NOT GAIN HIM ANYTHING!

He probably thought that he had a lot of supporters, and he foolishly allowed himself to be manipulated by the media. He let his guard down, and forgot that the media is his enemy.

That said... if anyone who did support him is thinking of changing their position because of this non-racist racist comment, then the media has won this battle.

I for one choose to not allow myself to be swayed by the media and their false race card.

56 posted on 04/25/2014 5:55:35 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: VitacoreVision

Since when does it matter is he racist or not? Does it justify a kulak treatment towards him or what?


57 posted on 04/25/2014 5:56:08 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: TigersEye; TADSLOS; KC_Lion
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58 posted on 04/25/2014 5:56:23 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart; TADSLOS
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59 posted on 04/25/2014 5:58:46 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: napscoordinator

I don’t think he intended to change the discussion, naps. I think the media wanted to get him to say something they could use to try to “re-direct” the folks who aren’t inclined to think objectively about the present reality.

From what I read around the ‘net, most serious thinkers are on his side, and are ridiculing the media, including Beck and Hannity for being so shallow.

Actually, since I mentioned Glenn Beck, there is every possibility that he has lost a good portion of his audience with his pathetic metamorphosis into an “Elmer Gantry” figure.

But, since most folks probably have no memory of that movie, that reference will have no meaning.


60 posted on 04/25/2014 5:59:50 PM PDT by jacquej ("It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and to forget his own.")
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