Posted on 04/24/2014 10:59:30 AM PDT by george76
Turkey will have to acknowledge the Armenian Genocide sooner or later, deputy foreign minister Shavarsh Kocharyan said after his visit to Tsitsernakaberd Genocide Memorial
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Parliament speaker Eduard Sharmazanov named the international recognition of the Genocide among key priorities in Armenia's foreign policy. "Unless the international community recognizes and condemns this crime against humanity, they'll always be a risk of repetition of such atrocities in future," ..
He further slammed Turkey's denialist policy and urged Ankara to follow Germany's suit in apologizing to Jewish people and recognizing the Holocaust.
(Excerpt) Read more at panarmenian.net ...
Didn’t Ottoman Empire also massacred native Christians, Assyrians, etc., not only the Armenians?
Recognize wrongs committed by muzlims?
PC Police pick up the courtesy phone.
Don’t ever say the Religion of Peace© is violent. They might disagree with you and chop your head off.
They massacred Christians in general. Armenians took the brunt but other Christian victims numbered in the hundreds of thousands.
The Ottoman Empire, sometimes referred to as the Turkish Empire or simply Turkey, which is not TRUE, was an empire founded by Oghuz Turks under Osman Bey in northwestern Anatolia in 1299.
Do present day Turkish government has anything to do with the Armenian genocide?
At the end of the World War II, high ranking Japanese and Germans were put on trial and some executed. Who were the Young Turks? Were they put on trial?
A woman claims to have seen this. It is from a movie. It portrays what she claims to have seen.
No one denies the massive deaths resulting from the Ottoman Empire war with Armenia among others.-- especially from the actions of the Ottoman Empire against Armenians living in Turkey.
RE: genocide
Regulars may tire of seeing this (below) but as far as I know it is still true; to wit, the issue of the "genocide" is for the purposes of pursuing world opinion to increase chances that a world "court" will order the modern Republic of Turkey to turn over territory and wealth to Armenia.
As far a I recall Turkey does not deny the horrors but will not describe it as genocide. Turkey also disputes the death count and points to the huge number of Turks killed during the W.W.I hostilities that had Russia and Armenia battling Germany and the Ottoman Empire.
It would be far better IMO if Armenia would just come out and admit this rather than year-after-year, country-after-country demand resolutions condemning modern Turkey for something that happened 100 years ago before modern Turkey existed. To wit,
"the admission of the Armenian Genocide by Turkey is an issue of secondary importance for us. The following issue must be raised: a cruel crime was committed against the Armenian people. The whole nation was actually annihilated, our lands were seized and our 3,000-year-old culture was destroyed. This is not only a cruel crime, but also a great injustice. Therefore, our true demand is compensation for this injustice. The world must know about what happened, and we have to a great extent succeeded. The Turkish side is well aware that the step to follow the admission of the Armenian Genocide by Turkey will be a demand for compensation and return of the lands. This is the reason why Turkey will not admit the Armenian Genocide . . . ."
So what happens now? the Kurds also demand the same territory -- who by the way were also guilty of murdering thousands of Armenians -- as well was Kaiser Wilhelm II German Emperor aware and, some say, abetted the attempted extermination of Russia's ally, the Armenians.
BTW, speaking of murdering the Armenian Christians and destroying Armenian culture -- how many Christians were killed when the Bolsheviks took over and, I think, made Armenia the first Soviet "republic" established outside of Russia?
It was a still from the movie, which came from a book by an eye witness. Her description of the evil that occurred is irrefutible and quite detailed.
No one denies the massive deaths resulting from the Ottoman Empire war with Armenia among others.-- especially from the actions of the Ottoman Empire against Armenians living in Turkey.
For decades Turkey denied the massacre ever occurred. Turkey Denial
"the Nationalist government based in Ankara rejected Turkish responsibility for the acts committed against the Armenian population." [from first paragraph in the link you provided]
I doubt that anyone holds modern Germany responsible for Nazi atrocities.
I see another thread about getting resolutions condemning modern Turkey for the actions of the Ottoman Empire.. I say again: we have enough problems, let Turkey and Armenia work this out. They are neighbors.
BTW, what the ruling AK Party is trying to do -- establish an Islamic republic and sharia law -- is not accepted by most citizens of Turkey.
I know many Germans and they would vehemently disagree. Europe reminds them quite often.
I see another thread about getting resolutions condemning modern Turkey for the actions of the Ottoman Empire.. I say again: we have enough problems, let Turkey and Armenia work this out. They are neighbors.
They are, to some extent. Having Turkey stop denying the genocide would go a long ways to repairing the animosity between the two but I doubt it would go away for a long time. 1.5 million people is quite a bit to deny. As for not getting involved, Christians are being murdered every day in the ME and several other locations, are we to 'let that go'?
Of course not. We should use every opportunity to tell the story of that young Christian woman in Saudi with her lips and one eye sewn shut, the headless Christians hanging upside down in a slaughter house in Syria, ad infinitum.
I worked with Turks and lived in Ankara for several months (before Erdoqan).. I have a lot of respect for Turks and I see a big difference between them and Islamism. I do not hold them responsible for the Ottoman Empire any more than I hold myself responsible for slavery and alleged atrocities against Indian tribes.
Fair enough. I truly have no dog in this game but the genocide was brought to my attention from Voice of the Martyrs and I am wont to see it happen again, although martyrdom is happening daily in diverse locations.
Indian tribes in India (south Asia) or American natives? American natives? Really? Did Americans mass murdered the American natives like how Israelites conquered their promised land?
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His initial motivation, the slaugheter of Armenian Christians. Along with the massacure of Assyrians in Iraq in the 1930s. His conclusions in the early 30s pointed to the events to envelop the continent, particularly religious groups. His family didn't listen.
To the inventor of the term, the Turks, whether one considers them Ottomans or Young, committed genocide.
To what matter it is today, I don't know. To the UN, I give you Africa, genocide means nothing.
I said "alleged atrocities against Indian tribes."
And I mean alleged.
It's also worth noting that German military members present in Ottoman Turkey later participated in the Genocide. Though there were some German military very much against what the Ottoman Empire was doing to their Armenian residents.
I believe that the Ottoman Empire personnel got off easy in post war investigations/trials owing to? I don't know. A European country's involvement? Had there been severe punishment maybe things would be different. I do recall that insurance companies had to be forced to pay life insurance policies to Armenians.. and I believe that continued for several decades after W.W.I.
RE: Africa[n] genocide means nothing (to even the U.N. and the Clinton Administration, et al.) and genocide continues.
I remember.
"cut down the tall trees," a code phrase which meant for the Hutu to start killing the Tutsi; and these weren't two tribes. Some intermarried, they lived as neighbors, coworkers -- in fact, IIRC the only way one knew he/she was a Tutsi or a Hutu especially if a product of intermarriage was the former colonial ruler Belgian's requirement for it to be stated on ID cards.
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