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Glenn Beck: Cliven Bundy ‘unhinged’
Politico ^ | 04/24/2014 | JONATHAN TOPAZ

Posted on 04/24/2014 9:30:04 AM PDT by GIdget2004

Glenn Beck criticized Cliven Bundy’s comments on race on his radio program Thursday, saying the Nevada rancher is “unhinged from reality” and urging his supporters to “end your relationship” with him.

“He’s often wondered if black people would be better of as slaves?” Beck said on his program, after reading from Bundy’s comments on race reported by The New York Times. “End your relationship. End your relationship. If that doesn’t end your relationship with him, you have to go back and question where did you go wrong. You wondered if blacks were better off as slaves picking cotton and having a family life? They didn’t have a family life!”

The radio host and former Fox News contributor had previously urged conservatives not to align too closely with Bundy. Earlier this month, he warned that the standoff between Bundy and the federal government had brought in “violent, anti-government groups.”

Beck in particular zeroed in on Bundy’s comments about “family life” during slavery. “If he really thinks that slaves had a family life, just that shows you how unhinged from reality this guy is,” Beck said. “You’ve got to distance yourself, you must know who you are standing next to at all times.”

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: 2016election; beck; blm; bundy; bundyracist; bundyranch; clivenbundy; election2016; glennbeck; harryreid; hillaryclinton; hitlery; jumpedtheshark; kookbeck; nevada
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To: GIdget2004

This sounds like Harry “this ain’t over” Reid has helped to begin the media assault on Bundy.


121 posted on 04/24/2014 11:02:44 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: tiki

Isn’t Bundy also Mormon? Maybe “jack” Mormon( one who selectively chooses what doctrine to follow)


122 posted on 04/24/2014 11:04:26 AM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: crazycatlady
I almost said that Rush has good intuition “for a man”, but decided this may not be a jokey thread.

LOL! You should have rolled with it...

123 posted on 04/24/2014 11:04:53 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: skeeter

Beck needs to retire. I suspect that what is really at work here is Huntsman money. From what I’ve seen Bundy made the same type of “liberal plantation” comment that many others have made to illustrate that the welfare state and liberalism have been profoundly damaging to blacks. People ought to remember that liberals are directly or indirectly responsible for the slaughter of millions of black babies. Even slave owners didn’t do that. And, no, this is not an endorsement of slavery. I had to add that for the feeble minded and dishonest.


124 posted on 04/24/2014 11:05:58 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Ohioan
Ohioan wrote:

Beck seems to have a need to keep proving that he is not a "racist," whatever that is even supposed to mean, anymore. His past adulation for Martin Luther King, is totally inconsistent with the rest of his normal Conservative message. (See Plastique In The Foundation--Honor & Martin Luther King).

Frankly, the slave question is not even really a racial issue; not in the historic sense as a White/Black issue.. Almost every land, where agriculture with large landed estates, among any of the principle races, had a period when the land was worked by unpaid--so far as a medium of exchange--labor. Whether called serfs, slaves, bondsmen, or whatever, the quality of the life, depended upon all sorts of factors, and is not really suitable for the sweeping generalities, indulged in by people trying to smear other people, over historic phenomena.

Thus, one can talk about a cruel taskmaster, whether in Exodus, Rome, medieval France or Germany, or in the slave era in America. One can also celebrate the same institution in the Song of Roland--if one recognizes that many of those in Charlemagne's army were just such bondsmen, brought to service by their feudal lords--or as in Henry V, by Shakespeare, in the speech honoring those who served on St. Crispin's day.

It is a trap--intended as a trap--for Conservatives to get side-tracked into these Beck type apologies for what is certainly a non-issue in a debate over the BLM maliciously killing a rancher's live-stock. That does not involve speculation as to historic elements in the lives of people in other centuries. The cruelty there is documented by photographs taken this very month.

I am sorry that Beck, who does have something to say on real issues, keeps going off on tangents. We should applaud him, when he gets to the real point; but do not follow him into the pursuit of irrelevancy.

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Such an excellent post, it bears repeating.

125 posted on 04/24/2014 11:07:41 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: ponygirl

The governments actions to enforce a court order with snipers etc were completely out of line, however Bundy was in the wrong to refuse to obey the law in the first place and is clearly a nutter.

Why people hitched their wagons to him is beyond me.


126 posted on 04/24/2014 11:15:05 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: don-o
“I hope very much that Bundy was misquoted. But, if the report is accurate, he has done great damage. This goes beyond PC. He (Bundy) has stuck a “kick me” tag on his own ass.”

Whether he said it or not is immaterial. The point of the overall piece is about a tyrannical government action. And the proponents of that government are again providing cover for that government with fact distortion, with Rand Paul and his ilk playing right into their hands...

127 posted on 04/24/2014 11:15:55 AM PDT by Blackhawk45 (Fleas can be taught nearly anything a Congressman can. -- Mark Twain)
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To: HamiltonJay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0&feature=youtu.be


128 posted on 04/24/2014 11:16:51 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: momtothree

When I saw “the New York Times” I immediately thought Beck is out of his mind or in Dingy Reid’s pocket.


129 posted on 04/24/2014 11:20:27 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Yep that’s exactly what the Bundy is a patriot are providing to the social consciousness.


130 posted on 04/24/2014 11:23:32 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Coldwater Creek

Amen.....


131 posted on 04/24/2014 11:24:57 AM PDT by samantha (keep up the fight....)
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To: kiryandil

“Looks like Rand Paul has been trained to the Lefty Racism dog whistle.

No votes for you, Rand Paul.”

You’ve got that right!!!!


132 posted on 04/24/2014 11:27:15 AM PDT by Blackhawk45 (Fleas can be taught nearly anything a Congressman can. -- Mark Twain)
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To: HamiltonJay

No. thats exactly what people missing the point are providing. The fact you miss it proves it.


133 posted on 04/24/2014 11:29:16 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Fuzz
that small clip does not show context. What Bundy says before and after puts a very different perspective on what the small clip shows.

Bundy may not be PC but his comments in context shows he is NOT a racist.

Bundy's comments were about the destructiveness of government programs.

It is shame his comments will NEVER be shown in context by most media outlets.

134 posted on 04/24/2014 11:29:53 AM PDT by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: crazycatlady

Mitt Romney being Mormon didn’t bother me; he is an honorable, patriotic American & I will always think him such. It was his lack of a firm set of conservative beliefs that strategically had more to do with his defeat than as an indicator as to how he would have governed as President.

And most Mormons aren’t aware of the cheesy details in the Book of Mormon & other founding documents.

Do most Mormons believe that blonde Hebrew tribes sailed westward to North America but were ultimately exterminated without a trace by darker skinned Jewish Indians? Do they all believe that G-d lives on a planet near star Kolob? Do they believe that a Mormon wife will not rise from the dead unless her husband calls her forth by name?

As for business dealings, I am told that Mormons do tend to be clannish.


135 posted on 04/24/2014 11:30:41 AM PDT by elcid1970
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To: HamiltonJay

No one has hitched a wagon to him. If anything, they’ve hitched a wagon to the understanding that this government means to take everything they can and kill anyone who gets in their way.


136 posted on 04/24/2014 11:32:07 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: mandaladon

Are modern-day blacks any better-off in the big-city urban plantations with near-100% illegimacy/illiteracy rate, in regular danger of being shot (by their fellow blacks) in their own homes or just walking down the streets than they were on the southern cotton plantations?


137 posted on 04/24/2014 11:41:41 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Marcella
He likely does not know slave families were split up and sold to others.

Of course they were.

Slave wedding vows included the variation "until death or distance do us part".

Is that really any different than today's situation with near-100% illegitimacy rates?

Was the Klan any worse than today's situation when in the big-city urban plantations you can be shot dead in your sleep by some guy your next-door-neighbor pissed-off?

138 posted on 04/24/2014 11:46:42 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: GIdget2004
If Clive's statements are true, which isn't in any way verified, then it shows that he is a man out of time, like someone resurrected from another age, or so Beck would have us believe. But aren't we all? BSO is out of tune with his own position on homosexual marriage from just a few short years ago. In this death spiral that we're experiencing in America, we are apparently not allowed to hold or have any core principles, like Mr. Bundy, but rather allow ourselves to be dictated to for whatever the opinion du jour may be, for fear of finding ourselves out of step, and therefore subject to supposed legal persecution.
No matter what these weasels claim Clive has said, or what opinions he holds, they have no right whatsoever to steal his land or cattle. What was the penalty for ‘ Claim Jumping ‘ and / or ‘ Cattle Rustling ‘ in the old west?
This attempt to discredit Clive in the eyes of America won't work. Patriots will still respond to the call, and America will witness its own government declaring war on the citizenry. Whether the citizens will respond in large enough numbers to make a difference is what is not known.
The takers are in a race against time. They have to have their way with us before the mid terms in November, the results of which are also what is not known.
139 posted on 04/24/2014 11:47:44 AM PDT by Thapsus_epiphany (Si vis pacem, parabellum.)
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To: Thapsus_epiphany

Government officialdom should take a lesson from history. Maybe look up Henry Plummer, Sheriff, Bannack, Montana.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Plummer


140 posted on 04/24/2014 11:58:43 AM PDT by Blackhawk45 (Fleas can be taught nearly anything a Congressman can. -- Mark Twain)
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