Posted on 04/16/2014 12:58:27 AM PDT by tcrlaf
Seen several tweets of this over the last hour, and now this vid of the defection is posted on YouTube.
The column had apparently been surrounded by several hundred pro-Russian civilians inside of Kramatorsk, with several older women linked arm-in-arm to prevent it's passing
At about 8:50, you can see the commander arguing with someone on the phone..
~If the Mexican military walked into Arizona, and had a vote for succession, would you be out there waving a Mexican flag?~
Your parallels are far-fetched.
Russia and Ukraine are closer culturally, let alone US is not as corrupt as Mexico and none in a sane mind would opt for Mexico in Arizona, illegals included.
Ukraine is a failed country, it is yet to catch with Mexico in both freedom and opportunities.
Even their own troops are defecting at first opportunity because there are really nothing to fight for.
~The Ukrainians do not want to join the EU. ~
And more important: EU doesn’t want too.
Have you even been following the situation?
80000 troops in Russia with tanks etc?
Why do you support a Russian invasion of Ukraine?
And why is it that all you Russians never answer that question?
“Russia and Ukraine are closer culturally”
HOLY CRAP are you serious?
Russians have killed MILLIONS of Ukrainians! Why? for land. There is nothing close culturally with someone who wants you dead.
The example I gave is exactly the same. One country attacking another, and having a vote for succession.
So I’ll ask you too....Why do you Russians on FR support one country invading another?
There's no “uprising”, all mongo propaganda is showing are crowds of up to a few hundred people, largely fakes, just like “US citizen” garbage you soviet posted several days ago. Anyway, I'm on a winning side no matter what is going to happen, your mongo buddies exposed themselves, even Gerries (you know “Nazis”, who broke Yugoslavia, somehow your mongo “brothers” have never had problems doing business with them) will not be able to lobby for Gazprom anymore. Too bad several thousand of people will probably die but as usual, all in the name of “slavic unity”. Now go watch some pictures of the shirtless Putin.
When asked how many Ukrainian troops had defected to the Russian Armed Forces, Rozmaznin responded: “About fifty percent.”
Ukrainian military units are expected to depart Crimea through the town of Krasnoperekopsk on the Perekop Isthmus and the town of Chonhar in Kherson region.
Yeah, well Putin lied about the spetsnaz in Crimea and said they were just local guys who bought uniforms, maybe militia. Yes, we’ve got some real quislings on FReeRepublic. Maybe they’ll want the name changed to PUtinRepublic.
~Russians have killed MILLIONS of Ukrainians! Why? for land. There is nothing close culturally with someone who wants you dead~
If you are referring to so-called ‘Holodomor’ how has you confirmed an ethnicity of the killers?
Has Russians (or Poles, or Jews) killed by Ukrainian nationals wearing either KGB or Nazi uniform hold the entire nation of Ukraine responsible?
And as soon as communism seems to be the problem why won’t we point fingers at Germans and start to hate them because it was their secret service who sent Bolshevics to Russia and paid for their activity to push for a communist takeover and knock Russia out of WWI?
Would Russia and Ukraine invade Germany to punish it once again for such an atrocity, which led to so many deaths and misery through the world since 1917?
Or maybe we would dig Marx out of his grave and impose some sort of muslim punishment upon his body?
Man, easy, all that we see is that junta from Kiev sent troops against civilians, and troops refused to act against citizens of their own.
What invasion? In Crimea - true. In Ukraine, east Ukraine - non of that. Just people against government.
Twitter is usefull but not a news source
Am I getting what your saying is this:
These are Ukraine troops who are still loyal to Ukraine. That faked they’re Russian troops so they could enter the area with a minimum of casulties ?
There’s no question these are soldiers fully armed and dressed as Russian regulars replete with masks and some with Ukraine insignia. Any insistance they’re grandpas or irregulars is a fool .Particularly tooling around in APCs. I hope your sources are reliable and this is not some wishfull thinking on the part of some commander back in Kiev who hasn’t a clue as to what is going on. The Ukraine command structure is something left to be desired.
Personally I think it’s a Russian specialized unit.
I hope your right !
What invasion? In Crimea - true.
Again, why do you support the invasion of a sovereign invasion?
It is hilarious that you russians can’t answer that simple question! you run away with excuses and stories. Can you answer it?
You mean the massacre where the muslims killed over 3500 Serb children, women and folks?
Russians don't. The Soviets are now happy the old USSR is coming back. But Russians they are not; they are the new soviet men, products of century-long artificial selection.
“...I think about the U.S. with a growing sense of consternation...”
You’re not alone.
Some of the Ukrainian soldiers are Russian heritage.
“...We all wonder what would happen if tanks from another part of the US were brought in to tell us how to run our lives....”
Had that already. See Waco, 1993.
The orange flags say "Solidarity".
An invader recruit possibility reading "Spetsnaz" manual.
March For the Truth
The poster sdays: I am Russian and I am for unified Ukraine. No to separatist banditry.
Ukraine! Help the JUNIOR brother! Show to Russia an example of DIGNITY!
More at source.
Srebrenica massacre was a hoax http://www.wnd.com/2007/05/41373/
Probably that’s what you think happened at Srebrenica, but factually, if that matters to you, the victims were not Serbs.
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