Westboro Baptist Church To Protest Fred Phelps' Funeral, Says Daughter

International Business Times ^ | 3/17/2014 | Maria Vultaggio

[markomalley]

After finding out Rev. Fred Phelps Sr. was on the verge of death many quipped the Westboro Baptist Church, the very organization he founded, would picket his funeral like they have so many others in the past. It might sound like a joke but apparently it’s the real deal: the WBC will hold a demonstration at the funeral of their former pastor.

Rev. Fred Phelps Sr., the founder of the Westboro Baptist Church, was reportedly excommunicated from the group.

Phelps Sr., 84, began to make headlines over the weekend after his estranged son Nathan posted a note to Facebook where he said the pastor is currently in hospice care and was excommunicated from the organization for reasons that remain unclear. As twisted as it may be, his daughter Margie (who is a part of the WBC) said on Twitter the hate-fueled organization would definitely be at his funeral, if only to picket.

“My dad Pastor Fred Phelps is a hell bound f*g enabling whore,” she shockingly wrote on Twitter Sunday evening. “#Westboro Baptist Church to protest this whores Funeral.”  Margie had nothing but revulsion to spread in regards to her father’s ailing health. She added he is “now a hell bound whore.” 

Speculation as to why he was excommunicated is rampant on the Internet, with some assuming the WBC members found out Phelps was actually gay and others thinking he might have had a change in heart as his health declined. There’s no definite answer as of now. 

Despite Margie and Nathan’s public statements that reveal Phelps Sr.’s passing is imminent, the WBC issued a “Recent Media FAQ” that denied the former pastor was not doing well. They said Phelps “is a person of advanced age, and such people sometimes have health issues.” But the organization seemed annoyed at the insinuation that they’re former pastor was “near death” since it’s “highly speculative” and “foolish considering that all such matters are the sole prerogative of God.” As far as Phelps allegedly being “excluded” from member ship at the WBC, the organization succinctly replied: “Membership issues are private.”

A spokesperson for the WBC said Phelps Sr. was in hospice care, but would not remark any further. “We don't owe any talk to you about that," Westboro spokesman Steve Drain told the Topeka Capital-Journal. "We don't discuss our internal church dealings with anybody. It's only because of his notoriety that you are asking."

[VRWCmember]

This is immoral for the same reason that feasting and inducing vomitting is immoral. It represents the separation of the pleasurable aspect of a natural act and its natural end, i.e., nutrition, or in the case of Onanism, masturbation, and birth control, reproduction.

That misses the point completely. It had nothing to do with "separation o fthe pleasurable aspect of a natural act and its natural end". It was the reason that he pulled out -- he did not want to father and raise a child that would be his brother's lineage rather than his own.

[onyx]

I would bet Satin is waiting but wishing that there is a place even lower that could take this bunch.

I like your thinking!

[Morgana]

“Phelps Sr., 84, began to make headlines over the weekend after his estranged son Nathan posted a note to Facebook where he said the pastor is currently in hospice care and was excommunicated from the organization for reasons that remain unclear. “

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Care to make any wagers as to why he was excommunicated?

[Morgana]

Mark tell me that’s a joke...please..

[Morgana]

Okay how did this thread go form Fred Phleps being a homo to Mormons?

Jus wondering if I need to call in the Flying Inmans?

[Star Traveler]

Phelps may be quite caustic, hateful, unforgiving, abrasive, un-Christian, unloving and one of the worst specimens of a human being around - but - homosexuals are definitely several stories lower and closer to Hell than Phelps is.

[markomalley]

turns out somebody hijacked her twitter account.

[Chode]

he is no longer master of his domain...

[Elsie]

Okay how did this thread go form Fred Phleps being a homo to Mormons?

Similarities.

[Elsie]

Why should the reasons be UNclear?

I’m sure THIS is in the bible that Westboro uses...

Matthew 18:15-17

15 “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.

[Elsie]

It wood appear that way...

[Chode]

clearly... 8^)

[BlueDragon]

Jus wondering if I need to call in the Flying Inmans?

They do make outcalls. Or so I'm told...

[Pelham]

“You just can’t make this stuff up.”

Absolutely. Just when you think the WBC can’t get any crazier they prove you wrong.

[Elsie]

Just when you think the WBC can’t get any crazier they prove you wrong.

Look around you.

You are in the Religion Section of FR.

Nearby is Conservative Cavern.

There are many curious artifacts nearby.

A faint whiff of brimstone reachs your nostrils.

Golden Plates have reportedly been seen in another passage.

Many twisty little passages lead from this room - all different.

Many voyagers have embarked from this point.

Choose your path well; as only ONE is reported to bring the sojourner out of the maze safely...

[Elsie]

It's been a while. Time to refresh our collective memories once again...

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Logical fallacies hide the truth, so pointing them out is very useful.

 

1. Ad Hominem - Attacking the individual instead of the argument.
Example: You are so stupid your argument couldn't possibly be true.
Example: I figured that you couldn't possibly get it right, so I ignored your comment.

 

2. Appeal to Force - Telling the hearer that something bad will happen to him if he does not accept the argument.
Example: If you don't want to get beaten up, you will agree with what I say.
Example: Convert or die.
 
3. Appeal to Pity - Urging the hearer to accept the argument based upon an appeal to emotions, sympathy, etc.
Example: You owe me big time because I really stuck my neck out for you.
Example: Oh come on, I've been sick. That's why I missed the deadline.

 

4. Appeal to the Popular - Urging the hearer to accept a position because a majority of people hold to it.
Example: The majority of people like soda. Therefore, soda is good.
Example: Everyone else is doing it. Why shouldn't you?

 

5. Appeal to Tradition - Trying to get someone to accept something because it has been done or believed for a long time.
Example: This is the way we've always done it. Therefore, it is the right way.
Example: The Catholic church's tradition demonstrates that this doctrine is true.
 
6. Begging the Question - Assuming the thing to be true that you are trying to prove. It is circular.
Example: God exists because the Bible says so. The Bible is inspired. Therefore, we know that God exists.
Example: I am a good worker because Frank says so. How can we trust Frank? Simple: I will vouch for him.

 

7. Cause and Effect - Assuming that the effect is related to a cause because the events occur together.
Example: When the rooster crows, the sun rises. Therefore, the rooster causes the sun to rise.
Example: When the fuel light goes on in my car, I soon run out of gas. Therefore, the fuel light causes my car to run out of gas.
 
8. Circular Argument - See Begging the Question
Fallacy of Division - Assuming that what is true of the whole is true for the parts.
Example: That car is blue. Therefore, its engine is blue.
Example: Your family is weird. That means that you are weird too.

 

9. Fallacy of Equivocation - Using the same term in an argument in different places but the word has different meanings.
Example: A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Therefore, a bird is worth more than President Bush.
Example: Evolution states that one species can change into another. We see that cars have evolved into different styles. Therefore, since evolution is a fact in cars, it is true in species.

 

10. False Dilemma - Giving two choices when in actuality there could be more choices possible.
Example: You either did knock the glass over or you did not. Which is it? (Someone else could have knocked the glass over)
Example: Do you still beat your wife?

 

11. Genetic Fallacy - Attempting to endorse or disqualify a claim because of the origin or irrelevant history of the claim.
Example: The Nazi regime developed the Volkswagen Beetle. Therefore, you should not buy a VW Beetle because of who started it.
Example: Frank just got out of jail last year; since it was his idea to start the hardware store, I can't trust him.

 

12. Guilt by Association - Rejecting an argument or claim because the person proposing it likes someone whom is disliked by another.
Example: Hitler liked dogs. Therefore dogs are bad.
Example: Your friend is a thief. Therefore, I cannot trust you.

 

13. Non Sequitur - Comments or information that do not logically follow from a premise or the conclusion.
Example: We know why it rained today: because I washed my car.
Example: I don't care what you say. We don't need any more bookshelves. As long as the carpet is clean, we are fine.

 

14. Poisoning the Well - Presenting negative information about a person before he/she speaks so as to discredit the person's argument.
Example: Frank is pompous, arrogant, and thinks he knows everything. So, let's hear what Frank has to say about the subject.
Example: Don't listen to him because he is a loser.

 

15. Red Herring - Introducing a topic not related to the subject at hand.
Example: I know your car isn't working right. But, if you had gone to the store one day earlier, you'd not be having problems.
Example: I know I forgot to deposit the check into the bank yesterday. But, nothing I do pleases you.

 

16. Special Pleading (double standard) - Applying a standard to another that is different from a standard applied to oneself.
Example: You can't possibly understand menopause because you are a man.
Example: Those rules don't apply to me since I am older than you.

 

17. Straw Man Argument - Producing an argument about a weaker representation of the truth and attacking it.
Example: The government doesn't take care of the poor because it doesn't have a tax specifically to support the poor.
Example: We know that evolution is false because we did not evolve from monkeys.

 

18. Category Mistake - Attributing a property to something that could not possibly have that property. Attributing facts of one kind are attributed to another kind. Attributing to one category that which can only be properly attributed to another.

Example: Blue sleeps faster than Wednesday.
Example: Saying logic is transcendental is like saying cars would exist if matter didn't.

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[Tennessee Nana]

today is decision day in the UK for the criminal financial fraud case against Thomas S Monson ..

Its about noon in London..and the Westminster Magistrates Court (like our grand jury..)

no news as yet but the TSSC is not happy...

[Elsie]

????

http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/TSSC

[Tennessee Nana]

the case was thrown out for lack or evidence..