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CURL: We completely overhauled American health care — to insure 4.2 million people?
The Washington Times ^ | March 16, 2014 | Joseph Curl

Posted on 03/16/2014 4:24:19 PM PDT by jazusamo

The number bounced around for years — 46 million.

President Obama said it in August 2009: “I don’t have to explain to you that nearly 46 million Americans don’t have health insurance coverage today. In the wealthiest nation on Earth, 46 million of our fellow citizens have no coverage.”

He said it dozens more times, including in June 2013: “We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children.”

The Obama administration pumped the number with official reports. The White House Council of Economic Advisers said, “Perhaps the most visible sign of the need for health care reform is the 46 million Americans currently without health insurance.” The Census Bureau got in on the act, too, saying some 48 million Americans lacked health insurance.

It was official: Nearly 15 percent of America’s 313 million citizens had no coverage and were, as Mr. Obama loved to say over and over to hype the fear, “one illness away from financial ruin.”

So, he created Obamacare. The crux of the biscuit: The United States would completely change its entire health care system to make sure those 46 million got insured. Well, at least that’s what every rational American thought. If there are 46 million uninsured, and the president and Congress are overhauling the system, it must be to solve the whole problem — not just part of it.

But last week came word that with just 15 days left for people to enroll for federal coverage, just 4.2 million had. The math is simple: That’s just 9 percent of the supposedly 46 million uninsured.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obama; obamacare; obamalies
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To: jazusamo
100%
21 posted on 03/16/2014 4:55:21 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: jazusamo

Obama — we had to destroy it to save it.


22 posted on 03/16/2014 5:06:53 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Jonty30

Had a doc appointment the other day and he gave me a stat I hadn’t heard yet. In California millions have signed up and most even paid their first months premium. 90 something percent didn’t make the 2nd payment. No clue where he got that number but he is a pretty smart, knowledgeable guy.


23 posted on 03/16/2014 5:07:47 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Graybeard58

See my post #23. Heard that Thursday.


24 posted on 03/16/2014 5:09:08 PM PDT by sheana
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To: jazusamo

the original number - btween 15-30 million - begs the same question? and it was asked in a loud shouting voice then!


25 posted on 03/16/2014 5:13:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Does this mean, as implied that 100% of the 4 million people who signed up for Osuckcare were the previously uninsured? Or are most of them people who lost their insurance because of Ocrapocare, or people who had insurance but discovered it can be converted to “free”?


26 posted on 03/16/2014 5:14:35 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: dsrtsage

They sure as hell did “overhaul” the health care in America and now they have a train wreck on their hands with no good way to fix it.


27 posted on 03/16/2014 5:20:00 PM PDT by DaveA37
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To: sheana
Yep, people will not voluntarily continue to pay for garbage month after month. Only the free loaders who get medicaid will be content. People who have never been insured before haven't a clue what "deductible" or "co pay" means.
28 posted on 03/16/2014 5:23:05 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (God is not the author of confusion. 1 Cor 13: 33)
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To: TigersEye
How many of those were already insured? How many of those did they shuffle off to Medicaid?

How many of the 4.2 million enrollees (that is all the 4.2 million represents - enrollees, not insured people), actually made a purchase and paid the first premium?

29 posted on 03/16/2014 5:31:20 PM PDT by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: jazusamo
Last 'graph of the article:Amen!

But me must always remember the real reason for nobamacare.

30 posted on 03/16/2014 5:35:06 PM PDT by upchuck (South Carolina Representative Trey Gowdy for Speaker of the House!!!)
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To: Go Gordon

Yep, that too. That 4.2 million figure (which is pathetic anyway) would sure be whittled down if we could see the real numbers behind it. The 0bamacrats are all liars.


31 posted on 03/16/2014 5:37:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: jazusamo

No, we overhauled the healthcare system to put insurance companies out of business and to empower the us federal government with complete control over the lives of formerly free Americans.

Funny how people can’t keep their eye on the ball, and that’s why we lost.


32 posted on 03/16/2014 5:41:21 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Graybeard58

“what deductible or co-pay means”

That is the sad truth. We are a self-insured company. It always amazes me that people think that if they pay the premium...everything is paid for. It also amazes me that they consider our very low deductible and copay (in today’s world) outrageous. Add that to the fact that the company pays the bulk of their premiums.

It leaves me shaking my head. And wanting to say...If you can find better and cheaper..rock on fool.


33 posted on 03/16/2014 5:51:46 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Graybeard58

most of the people who have enrolled lost coverage they previously had.

Very few people who had no coverage before have signed up.


34 posted on 03/16/2014 6:02:28 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

quote “What’s more, it turns out many of those signing up to the program already had insurance. “Few uninsured Americans are gaining coverage under Obamacare,” CNN reported in early March. Just 27 percent of the enrollees were previously uninsured, according to a survey conducted in February by McKinsey & Co.”

um... so if only 27% of the 4 million are people who didn’t have insurance before... that means we did all this to give only 1 million people access to insurance!

wow


35 posted on 03/16/2014 6:18:37 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Kevmo
Kevmo :" It wasn’t an overhaul, it was an ambush."

I call Bull $h!t !! It was criminal : " Bait and Switch "
If you like your doctor , you can keep your doctor "
If you like your healthplan, you can keep your healthplan"
If you like your hospital, you can keep your hospital "
or as Nazi Pelousey said :" Embrace the suck !! "

36 posted on 03/16/2014 6:23:01 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: jazusamo
“We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children.” - Obama

This above is a lie too. No different than, 'You can keep your doctor if you like your doctor.'

Most of the 46 million were happy with the free medical care offer by emergency rooms all over the United States.

Here's how it worked... Person walks in with runny nose and a slight fever. Doctor in Emergency room see patient, gives a prescription for cold medicine, charges the guy $8,000 for the visit ( YES, EIGHT THOUSAND dollars) and the hospital writes it off their taxes. This was inner city medical care - NO COST, NO PREMIUMS, NO INSURANCE FORMS, NO HASSLE. ALL FREE.

THAT system could have been reformed easily to give better health care to the poor at a cheaper cost for taxpayers. But Dems were in a big fat hurry... and they're stupid...

37 posted on 03/16/2014 6:32:41 PM PDT by GOPJ (From a bellwether to an "oh-whateverrrr" in less than a single news cycle. -freeper Fightin Whitey)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

You don’t seem to get it. The purpose of Obamacare is to drive the insurance companies out of business so the Democrats can step in and take over.


38 posted on 03/16/2014 6:32:43 PM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: Frank_2001
The Left is spinning this as a stunning victory...”MILLIONS of people” have been enrolled! Whoopee!!! /s

Dems neglect to mention there are fines for NOT signing up AND the IRS is the collection agency. Details that the MSM leaves out too...

39 posted on 03/16/2014 6:34:19 PM PDT by GOPJ (From a bellwether to an "oh-whateverrrr" in less than a single news cycle. -freeper Fightin Whitey)
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To: Graybeard58; jazusamo

That 4.2 million looks like “new” Medicaid plus the 26 year old “kids” who qualify for inclusion on their parent’s policies.

Here in Washington state, our reporting agency breaks the Medicaid number down into three parts.

I’ll guess the same Medicaid procedure is followed nationally:

(1) Medicaid Renewals
(2) Previously Eligible - First Time Applicants
(3) Now Eligible Because Of New Medicaid Rules

The Internet application form for paid policies has no check off box for “Previously Not Insured.”

As far as I know, it is impossible to determine that number using the data they have.

The author gets one thing absolutely right:

Almost no healthy kids will apply for insurance unless it is free!


40 posted on 03/16/2014 6:50:42 PM PDT by zeestephen
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