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You cannot Just say No to the Obamacare race questionnaire
Legal Insurrection ^ | February 5, 2014 | Professor William A. Jacobson

Posted on 02/05/2014 2:57:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The image below was sent to me by a reader who went for a visit to a physician, and was told that she could not be seen unless she filled out this race and ethnicity questionnaire, and put her name on the form.

She initially refused, but they insisted that it was required or she could not see the doctor. The form does indicate that it is mandatory under Section 4302 of Obamacare.

Section 4302 is explained by HHS as follows:

Overview of Section 4302 of the Affordable Care Act

The Affordable Care Act (ACA) includes several provisions aimed at eliminating health disparities in America. Section 4302 (Understanding health disparities: data collection and analysis) of the ACA focuses on the standardization, collection, analysis, and reporting of health disparities data. While data alone will not reduce disparities, it can be foundational to our efforts to understand the causes, design effective responses, and evaluate our progress.

Section 4302 requires the Secretary of DHHS to establish data collection standards for race, ethnicity, sex, primary language, and disability status. The law requires that, once established, these data collection standards be used, to the extent practicable, in all national population health surveys. In response to this statutory requirement, this implementation guidance outlines the new minimum data collection standards for race, ethnicity, sex, primary language and disability status for implementation in HHS, along with a description of the data standards development process, the rationale for each data standard, and instructions for their implementation.

You cannot Just Say No.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; democratcare; doctorraceform; ethnicity; laraza; obamacare; obamacareraceform; patientraceform; race; racequestionnaire
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

American Carolinian. Now what about the other 48 states.
If La Raza is an ethnic group, why not KKK? Both are racist.


81 posted on 02/05/2014 4:55:54 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ethnicity: Mongrel. Gender: Indeterminate.


82 posted on 02/05/2014 4:57:16 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Traveler59

I always put “other” for race, and, if their is a blank for it, I put “human”.

Once, at the Health Department, I put “other” when there was no blank. I am about as white as one can be, so I suppose that is why I caught one of the workers studying my face every chance she got trying to figure out, I guess, why I had not checked “caucasian”.


83 posted on 02/05/2014 4:59:28 PM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: beethovenfan
Ethnicity: Negro
Gender: Negro

In this society I dare anyone to question that!

84 posted on 02/05/2014 5:01:40 PM PST by glennaro
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To: Kackikat; 2ndDivisionVet

The Caroline Islands are in Micronesia.


85 posted on 02/05/2014 5:03:03 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: PistolPaknMama

Could be, so I might check that one along with lots of others...we all have ancestors from various countries...depending on the choices. I don’t want to get into their red tape for free stuff.


86 posted on 02/05/2014 5:04:53 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Sherman Logan

So that would be a Carolinian instead of a Micronesian?


87 posted on 02/05/2014 5:05:39 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: metalurgist

Yep, I guess I was not the only one using the “Native American” option. I now check “other” and write in “human” when appropriate.


88 posted on 02/05/2014 5:09:33 PM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You cannot Just Say No.

Sure you can.

Just say you decline to declare.

Or Human as Race and Terran for Ethnicity if you want to have a little fun.

89 posted on 02/05/2014 5:13:44 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: metalurgist

This form was obviously written by an idiot, but the intent is fairly clear.

“Ethnicity” for purposes of the government is to be defined as American, not Latino/Hispanic and a whole bunch of different Latino/Hispanic groups. I got a particular kick out of their including certain Spanish regions/provinces (Andalusia, Catalonia) and leaving out others (Estramadura, Aragon, Murcia), with no apparent rationale.

They also list Colombia, Ecuador and Chile, but not Peru. What’s up with that?

The purpose of the “race” question, OTOH, is apparently to distinguish between whites, black and a massive number of peculiar Asian and Pacific Islander groups. Why?

This massive differentiation of Asian “race” by country of origin for some extremely pbscure reason does not extent west or north of the sub-continent. Iranians, Afghans, Tibetans, Arabs, etc. are apparently demoted to simply generic “Asian.”

Madagascar is for some astonishing reason included, possibly because it was originally settled from SE Asia, a region the author appears to be obsessed with.

It would probably be possible to assemble a mental profile of the author simply by more detailed analysis of this astonishing document.


90 posted on 02/05/2014 5:27:57 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is there a checkbox for 13th Colony Human-Cylon hybrid?


91 posted on 02/05/2014 5:32:54 PM PST by Redcitizen (Never bring a tank to a Chuck Norris fight.)
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To: Kackikat

I guess.

The form lists Polynesian, which is a large inclusive group, but also a bunch of Polynesias sub-groups. For some obscure reason they missed Maori and Hawaiian.

I guess they did the same with Micronesia.

Hmong is listed, but none of the multitude of other SE Asian mountain groups. Some of the groups listed I’d have to google.


92 posted on 02/05/2014 5:32:58 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

I believe in the ‘keep it simple stupid’ philosophy, especially in paperwork. Another reason for small government and less red tape.


93 posted on 02/05/2014 5:35:12 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Race? tortoise, generic slow.

but finish, I will.

94 posted on 02/05/2014 5:53:10 PM PST by BlueDragon ("the fans are staying away from the ballpark...in droves" Yogi Berra)
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To: Kackikat
Carolinian?? Oh MY...just what is that?

Yeah, Caroline Islands -- but I betcha 93% of patients who come into a random doctor's office in North and South Carolina don't remember that, and at least 20% will probably check the box.

This form is so incredibly stupid that I don't think even the US gov't could be responsible for providing it.

If the doctor in question came from some third-world ****hole, I would run, not walk out of the office.

95 posted on 02/05/2014 5:55:17 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Sooth2222

No mine is American....so I will leave the Carolinian box check alone. I agree, the whole racist/nationality form is unnecessary.


96 posted on 02/05/2014 6:00:37 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You cannot Just Say No.

True.
But you have the options, "unknown/declined" or "other".

And then there's the obvious option of "black or African American," based on the racist (but official) one-drop rule.
If the racist bureaucrats want to challenge my response, they must prove I'm not.

I have enjoyed many minutes of chuckles receiving much junk mail addressed to the "black" me as the result of my decision to answer all government-required questionnaires related to race and/or ethnicity, as "black." No problem.

97 posted on 02/05/2014 6:51:48 PM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: skr

Just before I left Minnstoopid to return to Texas, I was accosted by a census worker. She insisted that I pick a race, even when seh was standing there in front of me. So I said “Hew-mon”, using the Ferengi pronunciation.


98 posted on 02/05/2014 7:12:29 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The information on that form is very rarely useful for patient care, and it is not needed to verify insurance coverage or to determine physician compensation. What is the government’s justification for forcing patients to spend the time and effort required to complete the form?


99 posted on 02/05/2014 10:31:43 PM PST by TChad
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Other, they forgot to list homosapian!


100 posted on 02/05/2014 10:34:37 PM PST by dalereed
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