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1 posted on 01/30/2014 4:55:25 PM PST by Kaslin
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I worked for a company in Nashville that was just acquired by new management out of Denver. They laughed when we started closing early because of the potential of snow.

They weren’t laughing the next morning. They thought they could drive in snow. Add a bunch of hills and a layer of ice, and they figured out they weren’t as smart as they thought they were.


3 posted on 01/30/2014 4:59:41 PM PST by DannyTN (A>)
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The real story you're not hearing about the Atlanta Ice Down
I watched cBS news and I heard alot about the GOP governor and the head of the state emergency system (GEMA) apologizing.
But not a single word about or from the DEM mayor. Hmmm, I wonder why ....
4 posted on 01/30/2014 5:03:02 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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Black ice is a killer. In places like Atlanta, they are prepared for snow but not Black Ice....no one is.


7 posted on 01/30/2014 5:12:00 PM PST by yoe
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That’s because it doesn’t fit the Left’s narrative. They want people to suffer. DIE, YOU RIGHT-WING NUTJOBS, DIE!


8 posted on 01/30/2014 5:12:21 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (15 years of FReeping! Congratulations EEE!!)
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The problem was that, as the snow fell, it was melting upon hitting the ground and then freezing. Throughout the day, that was turning road surfaces into ice rinks.

How unusual. Snow falling on roads and then forming ice. Geez.

Hey Atlanta, salt the damn road.

11 posted on 01/30/2014 5:16:32 PM PST by FreeReign
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The “real problem” is that apparently no one down there has foreseen the need for any snow/ice fighting equipment. Even a standard construction outfitted, single axle dump truck can be quickly fitted with a modified tailgate designed to lay down deicing materials which can be purchased and stored for years on end IF proper prepackaging precautions are observed. I have personally used Dow Flake Calcium Chloride that has been in it`s original plastic bags and stored in a shed for over 4 years. That's in the vicinity of Akron Ohio.
15 posted on 01/30/2014 5:19:40 PM PST by nomad
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it was melting upon hitting the ground and then freezing.

Exactly, I got the same snowstorm as Atlanta and no one can drive normally on roads that have been snowed on, the snow melted and then refrozen into a sheet of smooth, slick ice. And if that happens in a large city, you get what we saw in Atlanta.

The problem this week was that the snows started in the morning after most people had gone to work, or gone to school, or wherever. And then the streets and roads were dangerous in the afternoon when folks needed to head home, either early or at their normal time. - Of anyone had had a good weather crystal ball, everyone would have stated at home the morning the snow came.

Our snows usually come at night and melt away before noon, but this one came in the morning and stayed for two full days, and it is unusual for snow to stick around that long in most of the South.

17 posted on 01/30/2014 5:20:39 PM PST by Will88
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This storm was a bit different. I drove through Charlotte at 1900hrs and the brine treatment actually made the situation worse. The initial snow melted and then refroze quickly. I-85 along with 77 was an ice rink but we didn’t get the rush hour mess Atlanta dealt with.

I made it home @30mph in triple the time. Folks were using the inside lanes and not trying to rush. I was proud of my fellow travelers on 85N.

85S was a parking lot. LOL.


18 posted on 01/30/2014 5:23:53 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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Here is what I posted on another thread...

It was interesting to me to see the difference between
republican and democrat in their response to
snowmagedden, the governor (Deal) and his Ga. Fema
head both were on the air apologizing and accepting
responsibiliy for the mistakes made...

Mayor Reed (D.Atlanta) basically said it wasn’t
any of him, so he didn’t apologize but cast aspersions
on others.

Seemed to me plain how the differnet partys deal with
adversity.

I also heard a lot of stories of good Samaritans.
In one instance, the cooks and help at a Waffle house
could not make it to work, so various customers took
over taking orders, busing tables, doing dishes
and even some of the cooking.

This is the kind of self reliance that has always been
the trademark of Americans. while it would have been
nice for government to have been better prepared,
the people must stand on their own, it is what made
America possible and the country it was and still is
today despite all Obama and the demorats do to destroy
it.


21 posted on 01/30/2014 5:25:56 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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And of course liquid deicer can be applied by any applicator equipped tanker. Standard Sodium Chloride can be turned into brine with even improvised set ups, I`ve seen it done using large animal watering troughs and some PVC fittings, piping, and pumps. You need to fire your city and state highway managers.
25 posted on 01/30/2014 5:27:10 PM PST by nomad
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The problem was that, as the snow fell, it was melting upon hitting the ground and then freezing. Throughout the day, that was turning road surfaces into ice rinks.

That is indeed a problem and one in which I was involved in two weeks ago. It took me an hour and a half to drive 44 miles along I-696 here in S.E. Michigan simply because the Oakland County road commission wasn't out salting the freeway......totally their fault!

As soon as I hit the Macomb County line, the trucks had already been out and the ice was melting........

I'm giving Atlanta the benefit of the doubt since they're not familiar with how to deal with these extreme weather conditions and they probably didn't have the resources in terms of trucks and salt to deal with it......

As far as blaming it on the drivers, well, the worst highway conditions will bring out the worst results in even the best drivers.......there's not a damn thing they can do about it.

26 posted on 01/30/2014 5:27:31 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I think I've lost my mojo.....)
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Throughout the day, that was turning road surfaces into ice rinks.

Hate to sound nasty but ... so what?

This is why you call your DOT out to pretreat surfaces. The fact that you weren't prepared for basic preventative road maintenance is the issue. There is nothing unusual about any of the occurrences cited in this article, and yes, if you understood how to "handle a little snow" this would have been done.

27 posted on 01/30/2014 5:27:58 PM PST by FredZarguna (Das is nicht richtig nur falsch. Das ist nicht einmal falsch.)
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For crying out loud, can’t these people find a way to take care of themselves without relying on gubment?


36 posted on 01/30/2014 5:31:08 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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I think so. It was the ice that caused the problem, and when you have a dropping temperature and it hits the ground and melts, you get ice underneath

Last year DC when through a similar situation; it started raining and freezing on the roads. The problem was the fuel efficient cars which are too light and have no traction. It only took two or three getting stuck and sliding all over to back up the traffic. Once a few is stuck the rest, as they say, is history. Heavier SUVs that can handle the road conditions are worthless. Instead, people were stranded for 8-10 hours in rush hour. Fortunately, I had left early when it was raining.

While driving in ice IS a problem, you'll never hear mention from the media 1) the problem of driving these light weight cars in adverse conditions, and 2) what happens in an accident in one of these cars.

42 posted on 01/30/2014 5:37:16 PM PST by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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I have traveled thru Atlanta many times including just BEFORE the snow and ice. Atlanta has a lot of hills and a lot of long grades on the Interstate highways. It is not very easy to negotiate on ice.

God Bless all the drivers and Police and Highway workers. Stay safe.


51 posted on 01/30/2014 5:44:53 PM PST by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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Singing “Ice, Baby, Ice”.

Ain’t that Global Warming great? You get to iceskate in the South just like the poor folks in the North. Now that is “weather equality”.

Just imagine. Frozen orange juice, right from the tree.

Gives new meaning to “Cold enough to freeze your coconuts off”.

I’m going into the fur-lined bikini business. Love it when a cold front hits a warm front.


54 posted on 01/30/2014 5:55:58 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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Thanks for setting some clarity to the problems in Atlanta.

I have driven on a Midwest highway in the middle of winter in a blinding snow storm. It was freaky but I managed. Had the pavement been turning to ice, it would have been a different story.


62 posted on 01/30/2014 6:11:39 PM PST by Wuli
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Cluster Flake ‘14


70 posted on 01/30/2014 6:24:12 PM PST by samanella
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And so right there, on the side of the road in the middle of the storm, the expectant father and the officer delivered a newborn baby. It even turned out it was the officer's birthday!

Not to hijack the thread, but that's cool. BTT

84 posted on 01/30/2014 6:47:29 PM PST by Billthedrill
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Gonna be 80 tomorrow. Aggh.


96 posted on 01/30/2014 7:04:09 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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