Posted on 01/13/2014 6:27:32 PM PST by machogirl
Maui County police says the late state health director Loretta Fuddy died due to cardiac arrhythmia as a result of stress after a Makani Kai Air plane crashed off of Molokai last month.
An arrhythmia is a problem with the rate or rhythm of the heartbeat.
Fuddy's death has been ruled as accidental.
On Dec. 11, the plane lost power off of Kalaupapa. Nine people were on board the plane including Fuddy. The pilot and seven other passengers survived the crash.
The pilot and a passenger who swam to shore have said Fuddy appeared fine while bobbing in the water after everyone exited the plane and waited for help to arrive.
Fuddy's brother, Lewis Fuddy, says she was healthy and didn't have any known heart problems.
Read more: http://www.kitv.com/news/hawaii/maui-police-release-cause-of-death-for-fuddy/-/8905354/23912372/-/qt081t/-/index.html#ixzz2qKtA6VTQ
It does. Fred Leuchter, PE, recommends a dosage of 15cc intravenous.
However, as far as I know, Freddy doesn't have a protocol involving crash landings on water.
Having died of Cardiac Arrest, I know that I was revived almost immediately by a Defibrilator. I guess there are no defibs in Hawaii, esp. among the medical/rescue personnel who came to help.
An early victim of Obamacare? If so, justice was done.
PS: If you’re a Republican activist and get sick in Hawaii, you’re on your own for the most part.
LOL! This was the ocean, not an ER!
The first coastie to deal with Fuddy was PJ Ornot, who reported that he touched and shook her but got no response. He moved on to rescue an elderly woman about 100 yards from Fuddy.
Ultimately, it was Coast Guard rescue swimmer, Mark Peer, who fished Fuddy out of the drink. He said "She was unresponsive at which point I checked for a pulse, which I couldn't find". Peer had just rescued a man in his seventies.
Breitbart had an enlarged heart, and was diagnosed with heart failure a year before he died.
In Fuddy’s case, there is nothing in the article about the condition of her heart which could lead to rhythm problems. She may have had heart enlargement. We don’t know yet.
Dream on.
According to the Wikipedia, a lethal oral dose is around seven ounces.
If you want to kill somebody with potassium, forget about spiking their tea. What you need is to have a crowd out-numbering the victim, plenty of Velcro straps, and a needle. Obviously, it would be ill-advised to attempt that in the middle of a plane crash. Somebody might video you. Or you might drown when the plane sinks with you and your vic still in it. Assassination is not so trivial. You must see to the details ...
A person can have heart failure for quite some time and not know it due to compensation like a faster heart rate. The stress of a plane crash can raise the heart rate even higher which can lead to ventricular fibrillation and death.
If the ME finds an enlarged heart and can rule out other causes then the ruling is probably going to be sudden cardiac death.
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The Coast Guard rescue swimmer who first saw Fuddy said that their protocols required him to pass her by because she was unresponsive. The people who most desperately need the help aren’t supposed to be helped, if what he said is true.
But the protocols say the exact opposite. Unless she was decapitated, charred, had her heart, lungs, brain, or liver detached from her body, or showed rigor mortis, she was not “obviously dead” and must have CPR performed on her, unless medical help was more than 30 minutes away. The critical-care hospital on Molokai was a 5-minute flight in the bigger HC-130 and a 10-minute flight in the helicopter. So they were required to hoist her up and start CPR immediately.
For some reason they didn’t want to do CPR on her, and lied about it to the media to try to explain why they didn’t do CPR on her.
They also didn’t get there until an hour after they received the call, when it is a 15-minute flight for the HC-130 and 20 minute flight for the MH-65. It was a straightforward situation; the weather wasn’t bad and the plane went down 1/2 mile from shore so any dangerous drifting would be outward from there, making the search part of the operation pretty simple - and that’s the part that sometimes takes extra time.
And yet his father-in-law initially said he knew of no heart problems and the coroner, after looking at Breitbart’s medical records, said he had not seen a doctor within the year before his death. The toxicology report would later reveal that he had no drugs - illegal OR prescription - in his system at time of death.
Later on the stories changed. We would be told he moved his office so he wouldn’t have to walk so far and eventually the claim was that he had suffered a massive heart attack that hospitalized him for 2 weeks, 4 months before he died. Pretty amazing if that happened without him seeing a doctor in the past year, as the coroner stated from the very beginning...
So we know that the stories are fudged sometimes. And the LA Coroner’s Office has a BAD, BAD track record that way - including their treatment of Michael Cormier, their own tech who was poisoned with arsenic the Wed before the Friday that Breitbart’s autopsy results were made public. People don’t do such blatant arsenic poisoning very often, because it’s so easy for the cops to catch them if they do that. But the cops didn’t catch the perps; the cops instead lied about the doctors’ reasons for releasing a guy with critical symptoms who is a medical lab tech, says he thinks he’s been poisoned, and exhibits the classic symptoms of arsenic poisoning.
So anyway, there is more to that story. A LOT more to that story.
Both Ornot and Peer violated Coast Guard protocols by passing Fuddy by.
They have equipped helicopters and the ability to hoist critically-injured victims to those helicopters because the people who man them are trained as EMT’s. I strongly suspect they have defibrillators on board. And even if they don’t, they have arms and mouths, and CPR is required if the person isn’t charred, isn’t stiff as a board from being dead 2 hours, and has head, heart, lungs, brain, and liver still attached to their body. “Victim is unresponsive” doesn’t cut it.
And to determine that the victim is unresponsive in the first place, they have to use the equipment in the helicopter if it is available - a stethoscope and a heart monitor. They didn’t even do that.
I know those guys are capable of better than that; they wouldn’t be where they’re at if not. So why did they violate the protocols and then go to the media and falsely say that the protocols demanded that they do what they did? Were they given orders to do exactly that? If not, then have they been disciplined for breaking the protocols?
No they don't.
The objective is to rescue the rescuable in order of rescuability.
IOW, the coasties did exactly what they were supposed to do. Fuddy croaked before they got there. Any time wasted on her might have been at the expense of a saveable victim.
Absolutely false. They are heroes with the Right Stuff.
Their job was to minimize the death toll. To have spent inordinate resources in a fruitless attempt to revive Fuddy would not have been consistent with that goal.
I know those guys are capable of better than that; they wouldn’t be where they’re at if not. So why did they violate the protocols and then go to the media and falsely say that the protocols demanded that they do what they did? Were they given orders to do exactly that?
Whatever [reaching for napkin to wipe off spittle]!
Someone messed up. Why?
As a former Coastie, I’d be totally embarrased if this were true. Has the CG become politically corruptable? Guess its easier when your under Homeland Security. I’d wanna talk to the OOD.
The initial report from Fox News said he had heart problems a year earlier. The ME report said he was diagnosed with heart failure a year earlier.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/01/andrew-breitbart-dies-natural-causes-website-reports/
Its a little bit more complicated than that. Depends on the injuries of the others, If they have minor injuries then you can work on the more serious victims (who may appear deceased). It seems if everyone was except Fuddy was able to swim ashore then she should have gotten the most attention.
Breitbart definitely had prior heart problems. See #151. Morons with a misbegotten agenda might claim otherwise, but his friends knew he had a cardiac problem.
Absolutely false. The live ones should have had (and did have) priority over recovering dead bodies.
There was one guy (in his seventies) who swam to shore.
Passenger Ferdinand Puentes was second in line to shore. He managed to document the crash with his GoPro camera: www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUxmrxwfz1Q.
Puentes reports that he was plenty tired when he was rescured. You think he should have drowned so that Fuddy could be declared dead long after being brought to shore?
You sound like an Obama Supporter....
Indeed.
The whole thing is very strange. Kaluapapa “Airport” is a tiny, isolated single runway on the kaluapapa peninsula on Molokai. It is on the site of the infamous leper colony where Father Damian, a humble Belgian priest, devoted his entire adult life to the lepers. The peninsula is surrounded by mountains and ocean, and is accessible only by foot, mule, or this tiny airstrip. There is no commerce to speak of, and visitors have to book a long time in advance because access is so limited. There are no “red light cameras” on Molokai, because there are no traffic signals.
Is it not strange that this would occur in such an isolated, remote, “unsupervised” place?
Google “Kaluapapa, Molokai” for an overview of this area.
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