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Cloud mystery solved: Global temperatures to rise at least 4°C by 2100
EurekAlert ^ | 12/31/2013 | Alvin Stone

Posted on 12/31/2013 7:29:24 AM PST by Abathar

Cloud impact on climate sensitivity unveiled

Global average temperatures will rise at least 4°C by 2100 and potentially more than 8°C by 2200 if carbon dioxide emissions are not reduced according to new research published in Nature. Scientists found global climate is more sensitive to carbon dioxide than most previous estimates.

The research also appears to solve one of the great unknowns of climate sensitivity, the role of cloud formation and whether this will have a positive or negative effect on global warming.

“Our research has shown climate models indicating a low temperature response to a doubling of carbon dioxide from preindustrial times are not reproducing the correct processes that lead to cloud formation," said lead author from the University of New South Wales’ Centre of Excellence for Climate System Science Prof Steven Sherwood.

“When the processes are correct in the climate models the level of climate sensitivity is far higher. Previously, estimates of the sensitivity of global temperature to a doubling of carbon dioxide ranged from 1.5°C to 5°C. This new research takes away the lower end of climate sensitivity estimates, meaning that global average temperatures will increase by 3°C to 5°C with a doubling of carbon dioxide."

The key to this narrower but much higher estimate can be found in the real world observations around the role of water vapour in cloud formation.

Observations show when water vapour is taken up by the atmosphere through evaporation, the updraughts can either rise to 15 km to form clouds that produce heavy rains or rise just a few kilometres before returning to the surface without forming rain clouds.

When updraughts rise only a few kilometres they reduce total cloud cover because they pull more vapour away from the higher cloud forming regions.

However water vapour is not pulled away from cloud forming regions when only deep 15km updraughts are present.

The researchers found climate models that show a low global temperature response to carbon dioxide do not include enough of this lower-level water vapour process. Instead they simulate nearly all updraughts as rising to 15 km and forming clouds.

When only the deeper updraughts are present in climate models, more clouds form and there is an increased reflection of sunlight. Consequently the global climate in these models becomes less sensitive in its response to atmospheric carbon dioxide.

However, real world observations show this behaviour is wrong.

When the processes in climate models are corrected to match the observations in the real world, the models produce cycles that take water vapour to a wider range of heights in the atmosphere, causing fewer clouds to form as the climate warms.

This increases the amount of sunlight and heat entering the atmosphere and, as a result, increases the sensitivity of our climate to carbon dioxide or any other perturbation.

The result is that when water vapour processes are correctly represented, the sensitivity of the climate to a doubling of carbon dioxide - which will occur in the next 50 years – means we can expect a temperature increase of at least 4°C by 2100.

“Climate sceptics like to criticize climate models for getting things wrong, and we are the first to admit they are not perfect, but what we are finding is that the mistakes are being made by those models which predict less warming, not those that predict more,” said Prof. Sherwood.

“Rises in global average temperatures of this magnitude will have profound impacts on the world and the economies of many countries if we don’t urgently start to curb our emissions.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antarctic; antarctica; australia; globalwarming; russia
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To: Abathar

note 2 things:

1-no comments allowed

2-their disclaimer at the bottom:
AAAS and EurekAlert! are not responsible for the accuracy of news releases posted to EurekAlert! by contributing institutions or for the use of any information through the EurekAlert! system.


21 posted on 12/31/2013 7:41:12 AM PST by mreerm
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To: Abathar

I really thought (incorrectly) that those who got Fs in physics went into politics.

Now I know that some of them manage to get into “climate research”.


22 posted on 12/31/2013 7:42:18 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Abathar

These guys just keep digging don’t they??? They are claiming essentially an 8 to 10 degree F increase in temperatures….BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. What they really ought to be concerned with is the cooling that is provably on going….but I won’t hold my breath for that


23 posted on 12/31/2013 7:42:38 AM PST by Nifster
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To: Abathar
Yeah... These hoaxters are true imbeciles. We have a group of these moonbats stuck in the ice in Antarctica precisely because the models sherwood says are making mistakes correctly predicted that the polar ice caps are G~R~O~W~I~N~G. The problem with libtards is they're to friggin hard headed and stupid to understand the difference between reality and theory. LOL.... We can't make this stuff up I'm tellin you. HA HA HA HA HA HA...

Jesus of Nazareth said, "And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter." (Mark 13:18)

Think he might've known something the Al Gores of the world don't? :-)

24 posted on 12/31/2013 7:42:57 AM PST by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth
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To: Abathar
Scientists found global climate is more sensitive to carbon dioxide than most previous estimates.

Beautiful! Actual results have not agreed with modeled predictions, so the solution is to create predictions at greater variance with actual results.

When does SCIENCE take offense at data?

25 posted on 12/31/2013 7:42:59 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Abathar

1. Set alarmist goals that are far off(chronologically)
2. Collect grant money
3. See #1


26 posted on 12/31/2013 7:43:23 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Abathar; USCG SimTech

27 posted on 12/31/2013 7:43:38 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Abathar

More liberals sucking more money out of over-funded academia.

Move along folks...don’t feed the loons.


28 posted on 12/31/2013 7:43:46 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Iron Munro

a classic


29 posted on 12/31/2013 7:43:55 AM PST by Nifster
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To: Abathar

Global temperature has not risen in 16 years: http://www.politifact.com/rhode-island/statements/2013/aug/25/steve-goreham/global-warming-skeptic-says-global-surface-tempera/

Carbon dioxide has increased 7% in the atmosphere during that time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth%27s_atmosphere


30 posted on 12/31/2013 7:44:04 AM PST by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: canuck_conservative
And instead it’s bigger than ever

The Antarctic ice cap is the biggest ever. The Arctic icecap is on the small side of its historical range. 2012 was very low but that was an anomaly. 2013 represents part of a modest recovery from the 2007 warm point. The Arctic temperatures have been steady since around 2007.

31 posted on 12/31/2013 7:45:53 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Abathar

Gotta keep the research dollars flowing into their coffers.

The sky is falling for a different reason today.


32 posted on 12/31/2013 7:46:07 AM PST by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Abathar

No mention of solar cycles and how they affect cloud formation? I wonder why.


33 posted on 12/31/2013 7:47:02 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Abathar

Prof. Sherwood = Prof. Surewon’t


34 posted on 12/31/2013 7:48:40 AM PST by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Abathar

Shouldn’t this be labeled/sarcasm?

In Minnesota we are being told that by Friday and Saturday our temps will rise to -—TaTa-— the teens. But by next Monday, we will have another cold blast which will be the coldest yet for the season.

We could use a bit of global warming right now. Can we sue these yokels if we don’t get it????


35 posted on 12/31/2013 7:49:08 AM PST by Gumdrop
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To: Abathar
Another manufactured theory that is impossible to prove or disprove, but we have our consensus, so STFU all you scientific heretics.
36 posted on 12/31/2013 7:51:29 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Blennos
The hoax that won’t die. These folks will never give up as long as there is grant money to be gained. Science has been indelibly besmirched by this sorry tale.

It's the grant money that won't die.

37 posted on 12/31/2013 7:52:05 AM PST by oldbrowser
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To: Abathar
University of New South Wales’ Centre of Excellence for Climate System Science

The clowns this UNSW professor calls colleagues are currently trapped in the ice.

38 posted on 12/31/2013 7:53:16 AM PST by wideawake
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To: USCG SimTech
The scientists should all have to go under the same scrutiny that nuke plant workers do to gain access to the plant.

5 year work history.
MULTIPLE references.
600+ question phsych evaluation.

Just so you can do paperwork on the paperwork for the paperwork that you just did paperwork on the valve handle you jiggled.

39 posted on 12/31/2013 7:53:46 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Abathar

Has anyone noticed that never, ever, ever has there been a global warming alarmist who proposes free-market solutions to reducing carbon emissions? The only solutions I ever hear are higher taxes, more powerful government and movement toward to a global socialist command economy. Why is that?


40 posted on 12/31/2013 7:54:20 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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