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I was in the car business for 20 years and this is no surprise to me. If this is already posted, sorry this is my first attempt.
1 posted on 12/30/2013 10:17:09 AM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/29/21893911-workers-at-auto-dealership-come-face-to-face-with-obamacare-trade-offs


2 posted on 12/30/2013 10:19:35 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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Bottom line here is that this report is in line with everything else we have heard about obamacare. a few people come out ahead. most are losers.


3 posted on 12/30/2013 10:22:51 AM PST by ckilmer
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Many are discovering what they voted for and they will not like it.
They bought int to the ‘You can keep your plan...” lies and will be exceedingly resentful and outright angry at what Obama has done to them and their lives and families.......................


4 posted on 12/30/2013 10:23:11 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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....as he likes to say, “make it hurt”


5 posted on 12/30/2013 10:24:40 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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Among the hardest hit is Campbell, a salesman with a wife and three young children, all of whom are active in athletics. The premium payments currently deducted weekly from his paycheck will increase $77, to a total of $221 per week. “That’s a huge part of the budget,” he said. “We feel betrayed, lied to, and we're pissed off.”

Hmmm... I wonder who Mr. Campbell voted for. It is a new year I will be magnanimous and not devolve in a schadenfreudeic rant...

9 posted on 12/30/2013 10:30:18 AM PST by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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I feel for those whose eyes weren’t clinched shut during the last 3 elections. But for those who blindly followed Obama, like the guy who said “We were lied to. We were betrayed.” That statement tells me he believed the democrats. So, boo-bammy-hoo.

I also wonder why the business owner decided so late to tell them. He knew this was coming for a long time.

And this is just one small business. Millions more are about to drop the hammer. And many will go out of business. 2014 is not going to be a good year.


11 posted on 12/30/2013 10:30:43 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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“Trade-offs”

LOL. Gotta love that NBC spin for Obama. If by “trade off,” they mean “rip off” or “getting screwed” or “paying more and getting less,” then I guess they’re right.


13 posted on 12/30/2013 10:32:16 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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The article doesn’t comment on the tax implications of the $2,400 annual stipend. If it is treated as income, these employees will find their health care costs even higher.


18 posted on 12/30/2013 10:40:47 AM PST by PuzzledInTX
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The biggest winner is Brandon Chisholm, a detailer with two daughters, who will get health insurance for the first time, and will have to pay virtually nothing for it because he qualifies for a big government subsidy. That means he can bank the $200 a month the company is giving workers to replace the health insurance it previously provided.

Asked if he was excited at the prospect of getting nearly free coverage on top of the cash stipend, he replied, “Oh yeah! Anything that can help me and my family out, that’s what I’m going to do.”

His first question will be, "What's a deductible?"

19 posted on 12/30/2013 10:43:50 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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The 41 employees of Extreme Dodge in Jackson, Mich., are very familiar with trade-ins, but this year they’re learning about trade-offs as they come face to face with the new realities of health care. A few workers say they’re getting a great deal, but most have a severe case of sticker shock.

On average, about 21 out of 41 people voted for Obama.

If tObama voters are getting a bad deal, let 'em suffer.
They asked for it.

I have empathy for the others.


21 posted on 12/30/2013 10:46:30 AM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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From the article: “The biggest winner is Brandon Chisholm, a detailer with two daughters, who will get health insurance for the first time, and will have to pay virtually nothing for it because he qualifies for a big government subsidy. That means he can bank the $200 a month the company is giving workers to replace the health insurance it previously provided.”

Brandon may want to bank that money to help cover the deductible and copays for which he just signed up...
Hopefully he and his family are healthy and don’t require medical services.


25 posted on 12/30/2013 10:52:05 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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The income tax was a way for the Democrats to steal a piece of the working mans WAGES. Obamacare is a way for the Democrats to steal a piece of the working mans/woman’s BENEFITS. They need that money to buy votes.


26 posted on 12/30/2013 11:01:31 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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The bottom line is, if you work for a living you will probably get burned by obamacare.


28 posted on 12/30/2013 11:03:27 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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It will be interesting to see the effect of Obamacare on those whose incomes are based on commissions.

In a bad year, they get subsidies for their insurance, but when they work really hard and earn large commissions, their subsidies disappear and their insurance premiums skyrocket.

This is certainly a way of discouraging hard work by commission employees. We'll see how it works out.

32 posted on 12/30/2013 11:28:05 AM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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NBC waited until AFTER the 2012 election to do this report, even though Obama signed Obamacare in March 2010.


34 posted on 12/30/2013 11:35:57 AM PST by grundle
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