Your terms are acceptable </Edgar the Bug>
Posted on 12/17/2013 10:36:21 AM PST by Mount Athos
A private firm with a federal contract - and backed up by city police - forced motorists off Laurel Street and into a private parking lot Friday to question them about their driving habits and ask for a swab of their mouth.
"I feel this incident is a gross abuse of power on many levels," Reading resident Ricardo Nieves, one of those stopped, told City Council Monday.
He said federal and local tax dollars were being used to stop innocent people without probable cause, and allow a private company to hire uniformed police to force citizens to listen to their questions.
He said he wasn't told what the swab was for, but added, "Clearly it was for DNA."
The checkpoint was among several being carried out in Pennsylvania by the Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation, hired by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy.
City Police Chief William M. Heim said the two federal agencies are trying to see what can be done about crashes and injuries, and the swabs were not to get DNA samples but to test for the presence of prescription drugs.
The checkpoint was supposed to be voluntary, but Nieves said he had to refuse several times over a five-minute period before the woman taking the survey let him go.
What irked Nieves was the presence of city police. He said they were there - including a police car with flashing lights - to intimidate motorists, and gave the checkpoint an air of authority it would not otherwise have had.
"A federal survey with local police help violates my rights," Nieves said.
Heim said city police were hired for site security only, since the survey takers were paying money for answers and for the swabs.
But he said city police did not pull motorists over, nor ask any questions, and in fact were asked to stay away from the cars.
Asked about Nieves' statement that the private firm wanted police there for intimidation, Heim responded: "People are not pressured by police presence to do something they don't want to.
"In the grand scheme of things, I think it's a pretty innocuous and minor issue."
Heim said checkpoints are fairly common - for seat belt use, drunken driving, truck safety regulations - and all result in minor inconvenience.
However, an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania said those checkpoints are legal only to protect public safety.
"A car driver or passenger cannot be required or pressured into providing a DNA sample and, in fact, can't be stopped at all except on suspicion of a crime or for a properly conducted sobriety checkpoint," Mary Catherine Roper, senior staff attorney for the ACLU of Pennsylvania, told the Reading Eagle Monday.
The checkpoint was part of a $7.9 million, three-year survey by the agencies, which has been conducted several times since the 1970s.
The surveys have gained more scrutiny this year because the Obama administration has been heavily criticized over revelations that U.S. spy agencies are tracking phone and Internet traffic, CNN reported in June.
Susan Watson, executive director of the Alabama chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, told CNN that Alabama's use of deputies to conduct the survey was an abuse of power.
Mayor Vaughn D. Spencer said neither he nor Managing Director Carole B. Snyder were aware of it, and he needs to understand what role police played before making any comment on it.
Council members also were upset, and said if local police are there, it appears they are operating the checkpoint.
Councilman Dennis M. Sterner was livid that government can't pick up local drug dealers without a two-year investigation, but can stop motorists at random.
"Our rights are being violated more and more every day," he said. "It's another way of government intrusion into our lives."
The car has a license plate. Just capture that number and look it up in the state's database.
OK nully, where is that picture from? Too freaking cool. I want some specs like that.
City Police Chief William M. Heim said the two federal agencies are trying to see what can be done about crashes and injuries,...Take the illegals off the road in that shiitehole and make the blacks PARK instead of taking up the only lane available to bullshit and sell drugs, you got a pretty good start. This Heim, from all I can see, is a big government JBT. He’s well thought of, but has bigger aspirations.
A lot of us in TX emailed our AG Greg Abbott, he called the PD, who said they wouldn’t do it again. PA folks, try contacting your AG.
Put me on The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List, or you WILL be reported to the Mods.
Good point!
The prescription drugs taken by motorists, as prescribed by their doctors, is none of the business of this dirtbag “police chief” William M. Heim, or the so-called National Highway Traffic “Safety” Administration.
singing to the choir…but the chief is still a moron… a cheek swab will not tell what Rx you are taking
Your terms are acceptable </Edgar the Bug>
Welcome aboard!
Which is why you politely resist, stand on your constitutional rights, and don't give them the swab.
I know Pennsylvania.
I live in Pennsylvania.
And Philadelphia ain’t no Pennsylvania.
That hell hole belongs to New Jersey now. And it’s full of tyranny.
FTA: Council members also were upset, and said if local police are there, it appears they are operating the checkpoint.
If the PD is engaged in this stuff (not the word I first typed), clearly they have too much free time and/or free staff.
Cut their budget in half. If it still doesn’t stop, cut it in half again. [Repeat as necessary.]
I saw my first Homeland Security SUV today while I was driving on 35W just south of Minneapolis.
The “sobriety” checkpoints are in all fifty-seven states, of course.
I was directly referring to factual accounts of DNA seizures.
Good.
I had forgotten about that one. Foreigners who “don’t know” that we have freedom of religion here can’t be blamed for committing violence on people exercising freedom of religion...
So the judge, to boil this down to the essence, said that ignorance of the law *is* an excuse. Huh?
” Never should our trusted law enforcement agents be put in the situation where they violate the rights of Missourians. “
Who says that law enforcement agents are trusted?
Alaska Wolf?
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